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  •  No. He's just dumb. (2+ / 0-)
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    ssgbryan, icebergslim

    Bipartisanship is not the problem. Its Obama's complete lack of understanding how to negotiate something. He's utterly clueless. Or, perhaps more disturbingly, he regards it unseeemly to do it.

    I cannot imagine Lyndon Johnson caving in and looking so weak.

    •  dont think he is dumb (7+ / 0-)

      think he is in the bubble too long already.  He does things in half measures ( ie half assed).

      The Stimulus was the right thing to do, but it was half assed, see the same thing for HCR, see the same thing for mortage relief, see the same thing for upcoming Financial reform, see the same for Oil response, etc et c...  

      His administration doesnt act boldly.  It isnt the time for half measures, but DC doesnt get it.

      (regarding the bank mess) They want to cure the patient but not deal with the disease.

      by dark daze on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 09:23:20 AM PDT

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      •  When did the bubble form around him? (1+ / 0-)
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        Because that stimulus package was passed within 60 days of him taking office.

        •  It is called SECRET SERVICE. (1+ / 0-)
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          dark daze

          He has been under their protection since May of 2007, the longest of any candidate.  18 months before assuming the presidency.  He truly don't know what is going on out here and his so-called friends are not being honest with him.

        •  he was in the senate (1+ / 0-)
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          Orange County Liberal

          he was in the senate long enough to be infected with it.

          (regarding the bank mess) They want to cure the patient but not deal with the disease.

          by dark daze on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 10:01:29 AM PDT

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          •  Well, I ran into him at the airport (1+ / 0-)
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            all alone hailing a cab when he was in the Senate.  In any case, I've always felt that he was fairly removed just as a person.

            Anyway, even if he doesn't "feel" anyone else's pain, as a politician he should be a bit more tuned into what creates pain - and, particularly, what pain will ultimately affect his political standing.

            He was terribly worried about the Republican Leadership and not worried enough about the plain old people on Main Street who were trying to figure out their new financial reality.  They believed that he was working for them; and now a lot of those folks don't have that same kind of faith in him.  I think it is a lot better to keep your fans happy than to try to cater to a bunch of people who want nothing but bad for you, but that's just me.

            •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

              and for the bubble, its not just physical, it intellectual.  I dont think he REALLY listens to people when he is out speaking with them. This is true to almost every politician I have ever met. They always seem, dismissive, rushed, fake, responsive with little more than talking points, pulled five way by their handlers, etc, etc.

              (regarding the bank mess) They want to cure the patient but not deal with the disease.

              by dark daze on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 10:48:24 AM PDT

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    •  Obama is, and Will Remain, in Corporate Pockets. (2+ / 0-)
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      rick, Orange County Liberal

      Obama isn't dumb, neither was George W. Democrats don't lack spine & do not cave. This isn't snark! Corporate owned Democrats love it when progressives fall for the myth that Democrats are weak & Obama really prefers Main St. over Wall Street. We are simply an oligarchy now, pretending that we're still a functioning democracy. We are not.

    •  he's a lot, a lot, much smarter than you (1+ / 0-)
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      Anyone who reads your clueless theories about negotiation can confirm.

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