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  •  He is letting CONGRESS move his agenda. (3+ / 0-)

    Then you know what that is about.  He want to be congress friend, when those sold out politicians only care about their next election.  If he does not start going AFTER CONGRESS he will continue to get half assed legislation done.  People are tired of this.

    •  War on Congress (1+ / 0-)
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      Going to war on Congress or trying to go above or around them did not end well for Jimmy Carter and it made healthcare reform a non-starter in the Clinton administration. I think that is why he encourages them to do their constitutional duty of getting up and going to work.

      •  HE is a community organizer, (1+ / 0-)
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        it is about the PEOPLE putting pressure on Congress FOR HIM.  He actually have Democratic Senators who will NOT vote for extending COBRA subsidies for the unemployed.  That is not right.  He needs to go after them.  He needs to show the American Public he will FIGHT FOR THEM, even if it is from his bull horn.  No excuses here.  And this is a huge GRIPE from people about him and why he is clueless and really believe that the people's anger at him is manufactured by the press.  Don't believe it, watch yesterday's Meet the Press and Roger Simon said this was told to him directly from his interview with Obama.  That tells me that he blames everyone else, but him or his failings?  No way.  If Barack Obama was allowed to walk around the Gulf, the people would have plenty to say about the way this government has handled that oil catastrophe in the Gulf, as they watch their pristine beaches become oil slicks, while the WH is arguing and sending letters to BP to "do better...."

    •  ice, congress IS the lawmaking body! (1+ / 0-)
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      Presidents don't make laws, congress does. Every president must work with congress. Historically, bills drawn up by the White House get the most pushback from congress. That's what happened to Clinton's health reform proposal, remember?

      Granted, Obama was disappointed/surprised/dismayed when he didn't get any votes from Republicans, but he still has to work with congress to get any laws passed.

      I'm continually amazed that President Obama gets all the blame for the results that only congress can make.

      A president can propose, cajole, negotiate. But force? I don't think so.

      Slavery is the legal fiction that a person is property. Corporate personhood is the legal fiction that property is a person. -Jan Edwards

      by SoCalSal on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 09:54:58 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, they are... (2+ / 0-)
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        but when you sit on the sidelines and look like you are NOT FIGHTING, that does not sit well out here.  We are starting to see it.  His once coalition is fractured and broken in many places.  Bill Clinton whipped up on congress and the public believed him in the end.  Now we can continue to say, oh well, "he could not do anything because of congress", and it may be true, but politics and the WH is also about OPTICS and looking like you are FIGHTING for something.  Making the public understand.  Most of the public don't understand all the functions of government, but they get congress, votes and the president.  And while this is congress fault, what is wrong with Barack Obama using his bullhorn to the public and saying, "CONGRESS WON'T HELP THE UNEMPLOYED.  THEY ARE BLOCKING YOUR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE".  You don't think the public will get that one?

      •  None would have dared cross him (3+ / 0-)

        publicly at the time the stimulus was passed.  He was too loved and too popular.  He negotiated away any advantage that he had by deferring to Congress and, in particular, the Republcans. I think they thought that they were going to be putting votes in the bank for something else down the line, but that was a huge mistake.  In DC, you take what you can get when you can get it - you don't count on loyalty lasting and you can't count on favors being repaid down the line.

        Anyhow, with Summers and Geithner advising him, he was doomed to fail on this front.  Between the stimulus and pushing banking regulation down the list of priorities, they made sure Wall Street's risks were minimized; and they ultimately exposed Obama to much greater risk.  They might have drank their own kool-aid and really believed what they were saying at the time about unemployment not going about 8% or whatever they were saying then, but the reality was that there was no reason in the world why the stimulus couldn't have been bigger and more aggressive even if 8% was going to be the worst of the numbers.  They left him no wiggle room for miscalculations on the low side; and his political advisors led him to believe that he could easily go back to the well if there was a problem.  Major political malpractice, imo.

    •  Except that he's willing to strongarm . . . (1+ / 0-)
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      . . . Congress when it suits him to do so. The White House has no problem manipulating Congress when it wants to, and from what I've gathered, they do a pretty good job of it.

      Which means if they don't, it's because they're playing politics, not governing.

      The real enemy of the good is not the perfect, but the mediocre.

      by Orange County Liberal on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 10:19:34 AM PDT

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    •  why did you name yourself after a pimp? n/t (0+ / 0-)

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