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  •  Indifference? (2+ / 0-)
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    corvo, Deep Texan

    Was Ghandi indifferent to the suffering of his people when he rejected the British "concessions" which failed to reach his goal of independence?

    "The Hamas leadership isn't suffering."

    Says who?  Living in an occupied hellhole... is suffering.

    •  Really? (0+ / 0-)

      "The Hamas leadership isn't suffering."

      Says who?  Living in an occupied hellhole... is suffering.

      The Hamas leadership is well-fed, well-dressed, with little in the way of wants. It's the civilians of Gaza who are suffering mightily, mostly at the hands of Israel, but also at the hands of Hamas. You may wish to believe in the benevolence of Hamas, but I can't fathom why.

      •  I give up. (3+ / 0-)
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        corvo, Oh Mary Oh, Deep Texan

        "The Hamas leadership is well-fed, well-dressed, with little in the way of wants."

        More baseless assertions.  Can you link to the photos of the luxurious oasis in Gaza which houses Hamas leadership?  And link to the sources which show the enormous banquets they have every night?  And I'd love to see the photos of their Armani collections.  

        How do you know what you are saying has any validity at all?  What is your evidence?  You see, your prejudice is obvious to me, if not to yourself.  Your rejection of Hamas's position, which echoes the civil disobedience positions of numerous human rights advocates in the past, is based on rumor and innuendo.  

        Is Hamas a bunch of great guys?  No.  But your claims that they aren't suffering and enjoy enormous comforts has no basis in reality and that fact cripples your overall opinion that they are rejecting Israel's corrupt propositions because "they don't care."

        •  Would Haniyeh's (0+ / 0-)

          $4 million home be evidence enough of his lack of wants?

          •  *yawn* (1+ / 0-)
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            corvo

            "The source for the report is an unnamed person who is close to Haniyeh"

            I need real evidence.

          •  Check out the sourcing (1+ / 0-)
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            corvo

            on that story.

            First defeat, then deceit, then you're totally in denial (old Egyptian proverb)

            by Ptah the Great on Thu Jun 17, 2010 at 08:22:23 AM PDT

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          •  How could I miss this?! (1+ / 0-)
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            corvo

            "Palestinian Authority media.... "

            You understand this is like posting a FOX News piece on Obama as a legitimate story, right?

            •  Oh dear (0+ / 0-)

              Now even Palestinian sources cannot be used. OK. How about Avi Trengo's column in Yediot?:

              Which projects are we talking about? Perhaps the four million dollar villa being built by Haniyeh, or the one being constructed by the police minister’s aide for "only" one million dollars? No chance. The European commissioner will engage in the obligatory tour of razed sites, and horrified by the situation she will quickly return through the Erez Crossing, just like any self-respecting European diplomat, straight to the luxury hotel in Jerusalem.

              •  lol (1+ / 0-)
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                corvo

                How does this prove anything?  Some guy makes baseless claims about alleged million-dollar homes and you take his word for it?

              •  Funny... (1+ / 0-)
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                corvo

                ... Israel has had NO PROBLEM bombing any sites in Gaza at their whim, yet they are impotent to destroy this alleged 4 million dollar compound which holds a Hamas leader, who Israel has given itself permission to assassinate?  That sounds realistic to you?  

                Use your head.  You're falling for propaganda.

                •  Ha (0+ / 0-)

                  You're falling for propaganda.

                  Says the guy who has fallen for the myth of Hamas' benevolence. You'll hopefully forgive my inability to take this line seriously.

                  •  lol (0+ / 0-)

                    Let's review.

                    I am basing my opinion on the actions taken by Hamas, the statements explaining those actions by a Hamas spokesman, which echo the civil disobedient positions of numerous activists throughout history and you base your opinions on baseless innuendo.

                    Facts, vs. Innuendo.

                    By the way, the annoying "benevolence" nonsense is misrepresenting my position.  It's about making a difficult choice in furtherance of a greater good, not benevolence.

                  •  You didn't answer... (0+ / 0-)

                    ... so I'll ask again.

                    ... Israel has had NO PROBLEM bombing any sites in Gaza at their whim, yet they are impotent to destroy this alleged 4 million dollar compound which holds a Hamas leader, who Israel has given itself permission to assassinate?  That sounds realistic to you?  

                    Answer the question.  

                    •  Sorry, you usually take three or four comments (0+ / 0-)

                      to make one reply, and it's too tedious to track them all.

                      For someone who has appointed himself the guardian of strictly fact-based answers, your hypothetical whereby Israel would have destroyed this house because it has destroyed others is as logical as the laughable myth that the Hamas leadership is suffering.

                      •  Wow... (0+ / 0-)

                        Nice dodge.

                        So, Israel has (this is a fact, by the way) given itself permission to bomb in Gaza at will, yet my hypothetical which says they could target the compound of a Hamas official is "laughable"?  Even though they have an official policy where they can target Hamas leaders for assassination (another fact)?  At what point does your lack of rationality become self-evident?

                        •  Of course they COULD (0+ / 0-)

                          That they may not have doesn't really demonstrate much, other than your own biases (which you swear you don't have).

                          Weak sauce, son.

                          •  Conversely... (0+ / 0-)

                            Your "evidence" suggests that a Hamas official, who is considered a terrorist by Israel and is on a list people targeted for assassination, decides to build a huge mansion out in the open, thus putting a huge bullseye on his back for the entire Israeli military to see plain as day.  Yeah, makes perfect sense.

                            More weak sauce?  Or common sense?  Son?  

                            I've always wondered if people like you simply turn off your common sense abilities whenever you discuss this topic, or do you lack the ability in all areas of your life?

          •  people arguing the pro-I side (0+ / 0-)

            shouldn't be eager to accuse the Ps of corruption.

            Glass houses, stones, and all that.

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