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  •  Tarryl Clark is not in my district either... (36+ / 0-)

    But you can damn well bet I'll be walking the streets of Woodbury, MN and making calls daily to make sure that respect, civility and honor is returned to MN-06 politics.

    This is that important. It'll be an uphill climb, but I believe that there are plenty of reasonable and open minded people in MN-06 who would like not to be the folks that are the butt of a national joke that always ends with "...who in the WORLD elected this person??"

    It's time to reach them and all of us Minnesotans should be lending a hand.

    •  Natl Joke: MN 6th Congressional Doesn't Care (4+ / 0-)
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      I'm not sure most of the people in the 6th care what we think or what the national media think.  If the national media paid any attention to the 6th, maybe the 6th would return the favor.  As it is, many take it as a badge of honor that one of their own is riducled for 'standing up' for them.  

      The cruel trick is, Bachmann's not standing up for them, she's standing up for herself and for the very interests she pretends to oppose. (BP is a great example.)

      So it doesn't really care if Bachmann is considered a joke somewhere else.

      But it might care about jobs.
      It might care about being able to get health care if you don't have a job or have to change jobs.  
      It might care about having a representative in Congress more concerned with them than with her own profile as a political celebrity.
      It might care about having a representative in Congress that places their interests above not only her own, but above the interests of the wealthy and powerful interests that too often have too large a voice in Washington, DC.  
      It might care about having a representative in Congress that actually believes in our system of government and who believes in working within that system to achieve change.
      It might care about having a representative in Congress that has a higher opinion of her own constitutients and believes in their ability to understand complex issues, believes in their willingness to make difficult decisions, and believes that they deserve action not just rhetoric.

      You and I may think of Bachmann as a joke.

      But to many of the people of MN's 6th Congressional district, suffering under this historic economic recession and feeling like they have no say in their own government, she's no laughing matter.    

      If you say "Let them eat cake", don't accuse the offended peasants of feeling "entitled". It makes them nostalgic for their knitting.

      by Into The Woods on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 12:45:08 PM PDT

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      •  Nicely written, but off the mark. (15+ / 0-)

        It's refreshing to see/have an authentic exchange on something other than how badly one has/hasn't been slighted by the President, so thank you in advance. Genuine thank you.

        That said, I'm on the ground here. And honestly, there isn't a tremendous strain from job loss in MN-06. There also isn't a widespread feeling of not having a say in government, either -- frankly, a significant chunk of voters here are well off and not likely to be lingering anywhere near a political website by and large (of course, these are broad generalizations).

        Michelle Bachmann was brought into power on the heels of her tie ins with the religious right in Minnesota, relying on financial and primary support from a group of white, well to do, Catholics with an agenda to build power through a right to life, anti-St. Paul platform. Bachmann has never been truly "embraced" by MN-06 at any point, as evidenced by the suddenly tense polling weeks before the '08 election from vanilla El Tinklenburg (sp?), a candidate so non-"made for TV" that he was quickly ushered aside by the state party early in the primary process this time around. And I can assure you, I see PLENTY of eye rolls from the residents here when Bachmann's name is mentioned, even from those who have voted for her up until now.

        Your points are more than valid and should not be forgotten. But rest assured, if Tarryl Clark presents herself as a legitimate and poised candidate, Bachmann's horrendously classless demeanor here to now will be anything but embraced come November.

        •  Pocketbook Issues Key to 2010 (3+ / 0-)

          The 'social conservative' issues may have ushered Bachmann in, but pocketbook issues may be the key to revealing whose side she is really on.

          I agree that her ground troops will likely continue to be the religious right and teabaggers.  But her more general audience (especially in the right-leaning persuadables) may be listening with different ears than they used in 2008.

          If you look at Bachmann's rhetoric, it is targetted at making her appear to be the champion of the disaffected and 'silenced' majority, a defender of liberty and a courageous voice of the people crying out in the wilderness and standing against a tyrannical government.  Underestimating the power of that appeal (or the real legitamacy of some of those concerns  - as we often rant about here) would be a mistake not just in this race, but in any other this year.  What the pundits call 'anti-incumbent' tide could more appropriately be characterized as 'anti-status quo of a dysfunctional democracy' tide.  As an example, Bachmann publically opposed the financial bailout bills and she'll use that as a badge of her committment to the 'small people'.  

          But her rigid and extreme ideology also led her to oppose many of the other measures designed to help the people of her own district.

          I had understood the 6th was high (at least in MN terms) as far as unemployment.  Perhaps I was mistaken.  I do know that the 6th ranks high in forclosures and that Bachmann fought tooth and nail to prevent any government assistance programs for folks trying to keep their homes from being taken by the banks.  Often (not always) forclosure rates are tied to a certain extent to rates of job loss for obvious reasons.  I don't know the statistics on that for the 6th, but it's hard to believe it didn't have some serious effect.

          Just to the north of the Twin Cities, the 6th district, represented by Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann, had the most foreclosures of any of Minnesota’s eight congressional districts, with an estimated 5,227 in 2008. Her district also had the highest rate of foreclosures as a percentage of households, at 1.80 percent, nearly that of the city of Minneapolis at 1.85 percent.

          The situation was similar in 2007, when, according to a Housing Link study, Bachmann’s district had a higher foreclosure rate than the rest of Minnesota and the rest of the country.

          ...

          When Congress was debating strategies to assist families facing foreclosure, Bachmann called those homeowners "irresponsible."

          "Now, we can debate whether this is the right thing to do as it may seem that you’re rewarding the irresponsible while punishing those who have been playing by the rules," she said in Febraury. "When President Obama released his plan ... to prevent home foreclosures, the point he wanted to get across to everyone watching was that money from folks who have been making their payments on time will not just be handed over to those folks who got in over their heads and bought a house they knew they couldn’t afford."

          Those homes that residents of the 6th district couldn’t afford had a median value of $239,000, according to the 2007 American Community Survey, just above the national median of $229,000. Prices have likely declined considerably since the 2007 survey....

          http://minnesotaindependent.com/...

          Those that voted for Bachmann because of her religious, home-school over public eduction, anti-abortion, anti-government positions will be unlikely to abandon her now.

          Those that voted for her (or skipped that race on the 2008 ballot as many did) for other reasons, will be looking for more 'centrist - populist' positions on the issues that are central to their everday lives like jobs, taxes, health care.  But what may persuade them to switch is a change in perception of who Bachmann really is, a champion of the little guy or someone more interested in her own political celebrity.  

          It will be an interesting one to watch.

          If you say "Let them eat cake", don't accuse the offended peasants of feeling "entitled". It makes them nostalgic for their knitting.

          by Into The Woods on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:04:54 PM PDT

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      •  Isn't she the welfare queen of govt. subsidies? (3+ / 0-)
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        I read somewhere that her family or family's farm received something like $250K in govt subsidies. Anybody know the veracity of that claim?

        "The speech was from the Oval Office. And that speech was not fitting for such a setting..." --Sage slinkerwink

        by marabout40 on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 01:41:58 PM PDT

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        •  Over 1/4 Million Dollars in Wicked Socialist (7+ / 0-)

          wealth redistribution, between 1995 and 2006.

          Back in December of 2009, the Mpls/St Paul CityPages blog reported on that:

          Crop subsidy data suggests Michele Bachmann is a welfare queen

          By Hart Van Denburg, Tuesday, Dec. 22 2009

          ...  Truthdig, a lefty news site, recently crunched some numbers supplied by the Environmental Working Group and Bachmann's own financial disclosures. EWG's numbers come from the United States Department of Agriculture, and are current through the 2007 farm subsidy program year.

          Bachmann's family farm received $251,973 in federal subsidies between 1995 and 2006. The farm had been managed by Bachmann's recently deceased father-in-law and took in roughly $20,000 in 2006 and $28,000 in 2005, with the bulk of the subsidies going to dairy and corn. Both dairy and corn are heavily subsidized--or "socialized"--businesses in America (in 2005 alone, Washington spent $4.8 billion propping up corn prices) and are subject to strict government price controls. ...

          http://blogs.citypages.com/...

          If you say "Let them eat cake", don't accuse the offended peasants of feeling "entitled". It makes them nostalgic for their knitting.

          by Into The Woods on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:11:02 PM PDT

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      •  Coming from some in that district who cares (0+ / 0-)

        your litany of words are just that words.  

        You might to read up on things happening in this district.

        Highest home closures in the state.  Unemployment is quite high.

        Having a nut full with platitude's is nothing to be proud about.  I know, I have been included in her phone conference calls.  I was not able to ask questions.

        Bachmann is not representing the district.  What exactly has she done for the district?  Telling them not to return their census because the government was going to use thier information as in WWII where Japanese Americans were sent to camps. When seriously questioned and written about her idiotic nonsense, she had to walk back her crap, but only once she finally was able to comprehend that if MNtans were to loose a house seat, district 6 was first to go.

        So please spare us all the notion that she is speaking up for her district. The letters and messages sent to them are things like Obama is destroying our nation, Obama is spending out of control, etc.  Then she tells them that while Bush2 wrecked havoc, she tells them that Bush had the economy 'working good.'  That he left office with 300B deficit because of 9/11.  I could go on, on the nonsense she spews to the folks that her statisticians have targeted.  

        So please know of what you speak.

        Ms. Clark.  I gave you a glimpse of what Bachmann does.  I am quite confidence that you might have these information already.  

        In order for Bachmann to be defeated, you must know what she does. Then develop a strategy of how to re-educate the district, arm them with truths.  In MN, when given the right message that is truthful, the truth out weighs the lies.

        I am hoping that this year, is the last for Bachmann.  It will be tough, but doable.  48% of the district are kin on Bachmann. If you work as hard as Sen Franken did, you will prevail.  I will be doing my very best for you.  Good luck.

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