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  •  He's had 18 mos of chances to feign that (19+ / 0-)

    Between the birthers, the deathers, and the Tea Partiers, he's dealt w/ unbroken insanity from his foes from day 1.  It's past time to pretend to be shocked that the GOP is out to get him and it's time to do something about it.

    10 mos ago, Grassley was telling Iowans that the Dems wanted to pull the plug on grandma, yet the whole Baucus "gang of 6" charade was allowed to go on while Dem town halls were being disrupted nationwide.  Today, Simpson clearly wants to gut SS, yet a "deficit panel" that will never touch the Pentagon sacred cow moves forward.   A major executive response to the ongoing corporate murder of the Gulf has been to name still another "bipartisan" commission.

    Watching Matthews eviscerate AL-2 Tea Partier Rick Barber last night offered a template for the Dems.  I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to follow it.

    Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

    by RFK Lives on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 08:07:49 AM PDT

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    •  Sometimes, and I think this was one of them, (9+ / 0-)

      there is an opportunity to grandstand on a comment. I think Obama picked one that wasn't directed at him.

      IMHO, Obama is savvy and knows what's happening. When the attacks are directed at him, he has to take the higher ground and ignore it, and that includes the "administration fail" comments. I know that because I've been in a very similar position. When others are working hard for your failure (been there), you have to select your battles carefully. It could be argued that Obama's missed some opportunities (I know I did), but I've been in a similar dynamic.

      I was (still am, come to think about it!) female, important, high ranking and powerful. Co-workers and their subordinates were tossing Frederick's catalogues at me, I got some unwanted attention, put on porn mailing lists, much more, some unbelievable ...). Couldn't do anything; no management support; my bosses were all political appointees and not vested in the organizational machinations. I had to wait until a bigger picture issue occurred to make my points. They came. Agony in between, but that was just for me. It was hell. I had to outsmart them over time. And I did.

      You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. -- Sir Winston Churchill

      by bleeding heart on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 09:04:42 AM PDT

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      •  if Obama was savvy... (14+ / 0-)

        ...the Republicans would be looking at holding 17 seats in the Senate, same as in the 30's.  Somehow, I doubt that's going to happen while Obama is in office.

        Because there's never any follow-through to his bipartisan games.  The GOP has shown time after time they have no interest in anything reasonable, yet Obama continues to insist on bipartisanship and meeting them half way on the issues.

        I'm a part of the reality-based community, not the personality-based community.

        by Uberbah on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 09:38:39 AM PDT

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        •  Sorry, don't agree (3+ / 0-)
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          but won't get into a fight or go any more OT. As one who has worked in the public sector all my life as well as run and served in an elected position, all I can say is that it's a different form dance than I had imagined. I had to learn it and dance it for a while. I'd be doing the same thing as Obama (indeed I have) -- and hating every second of it, feeling impatient, but knowing I had to do it. I also know what it looks like from the outside. I'm less disappointed than you. I will remain a strong supporter is my bottom line. You have to make your own choice and it sounds like you have.

          You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. -- Sir Winston Churchill

          by bleeding heart on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 10:21:44 AM PDT

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          •  Reagan didn't meet Dems halfway, nor did W (15+ / 0-)

            If (God help us) someone like the Mittster wins in 2012, he won't be meeting us halfway, either.  Dems had Senate pluralities in '01-'02 and in '07-'08, yet they weren't half as effective in thwarting W then as GOP is in thwaring Obama w/ 41 senators now.

            To make matters worse, we're told that we have to appease the likes of Blanche Lincoln to get things passed, but, when a viable primary foe emerges, the entire party machinery mobilizes behind her.  The machinery mobilized behind JoeMentum in the '06 primary, it stayed on the sidelines in the GE then, and it let him off the hook w/ a light wrist slap after he willfully committed political treason in '08.

            While no one should ever have to experience what you went through personally, the situations don't appear to be analogous.

            Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

            by RFK Lives on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 10:40:05 AM PDT

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          •  I HEAR You and I Get It. If You Have To Step (3+ / 0-)
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            out, we can take if from here, and thanks.

            I've been sayin' over and over lately, he could be Cassius Claying them (yes, before he was Ali, he was floatin' like a butterfly - man was ALL THAT from Day #1!), he could be suckering them all right in close, just waitin' for the shot that counts.

            I'm out on a limb here sometimes, but I'm bettin' he's been swimming with the sharks plenty of times before and not just into jumping them (I still don't know WTF that means and I've seen it explained more than once).  He plays basketball, not whack-a-mole.

            In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king; in the land of the braindead, the intelligent person is cast as the village idiot."

            by dendron gnostic on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 11:04:09 AM PDT

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          •  where and when is the payoff? (3+ / 0-)
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            If all this niceness and bipartisanship from Obama never yields any dividends, how is it not a waste of time?  During the stimulus debate, the meme was that Obama was throwing a "rope-a-dope" on the Republicans, by acting nice and reasonable while they acted crazy and against the wishes of the people.

            The latter has happened in spades, but where is the second half of the rope-a-dope - when you counterattack and knock your opponents ass out?  Is Obama ever going to say "no mas"?

            I'm a part of the reality-based community, not the personality-based community.

            by Uberbah on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 01:49:31 PM PDT

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            •  When Roberto Duran had his famous "no mas" moment (0+ / 0-)

              he was quitting in a fight with Sugar Ray Leonard.

              And, of course, you have to get in a fight before you quit it...

              www.bushwatch.net - Kicking against the pricks since '98!

              by chuckvw on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 03:25:20 PM PDT

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              •  too bad I was referring to the Spanish language.. (1+ / 0-)
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                ...and nothing connected to boxing.

                And, of course, you have to get in a fight before you quit it...

                Indeed.  I was thinking we would see some of this from Obama, some day.  I stopped holding my breath a long time ago though.

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                I'm a part of the reality-based community, not the personality-based community.

                by Uberbah on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 03:42:30 PM PDT

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                •  Since you used "rope-a-dope" in the same graf... (1+ / 0-)
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                  I'm probably one of the few old boxing fans on the site!

                  www.bushwatch.net - Kicking against the pricks since '98!

                  by chuckvw on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 04:07:12 PM PDT

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                  •  you ever watch Around the Horn... (1+ / 0-)
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                    ...when Max (huge boxing fan) was still hosting?  The final question on one show was...name the greatest athlete over 40 years old.

                    Kevin Blackistone (IIRC) named Archie "The Old Mongoose" Moore, who had a great career through his 40's.

                    Woody Paige said, 'Okay, since you mentioned boxing, I have no chance whatsoever.  So I'll go with a great performer, who's remained active well into his 70's....Hugh Hefner.'

                    I'm more in Woody Paige territory than Max territory.  :)

                    I'm a part of the reality-based community, not the personality-based community.

                    by Uberbah on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 04:36:34 PM PDT

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        •  Obama silence = acceptance (5+ / 0-)
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          More disappointment!

      •  Ding! Ding! Ding! We HAVE A Winner - Someone (3+ / 0-)
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        who REALLY DOES know what they are talking about and with chops from the REAL WORLD, too.

        I gotcha back on this one, Ma'am.

        (Cue the Aaron Neville track, "Tell It Like It Is")

        In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king; in the land of the braindead, the intelligent person is cast as the village idiot."

        by dendron gnostic on Thu Jul 01, 2010 at 10:56:00 AM PDT

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    •  You are right, RFK. It makes the President sound (3+ / 0-)
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      'out of touch' by acting "stunned".  It's bullshit.  Get with the f-ing program, man.  Get people jobs, that's what we need.

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