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  •  Heh, that's pretty good. (1+ / 0-)
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    I'd mount some kind of defense of capital L 'Literature' but I have to admit I laughed at that.  It's funny because it's true!

    I find the stuff that tries to straddle genre fiction and Literature pretty fascinating: what do you do when you're writing to a genre but trying to write outside of it simultaneously?  Some of it doesn't care - like Lem, who thought sci fi was trash and had no problem saying so in his own sci fi novels.  

    So here's the million dollar question: if man and wife quarrel, then run over a cat, but it takes place on Venus, is it genre fiction or is it Literature?

    Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

    by pico on Fri Jul 02, 2010 at 11:01:38 AM PDT

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    •  Depends on the author. (1+ / 0-)
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      You know about Kurt Vonnegut raising a fuss to get the science fiction label taken off his books, right? He wanted to be taken seriously. A gamble that didn't have much chance of paying off but it just so happens did.

      (And earned him the cordial contempt of the SF community, of course.)

      Then there's Philip Roth and... well actually there are a lot of authors who are considered (who knows why?) Literature who use some pretty common F/SF tropes but aren't considered F/SF. Probably Mr. Vonnegut's legacy.

      So, yeah. Literature. You're not going to send that million in rubles, are you?

      -9.0, -8.3 "...the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year" --AP, 6/9/2010

      by SensibleShoes on Fri Jul 02, 2010 at 11:08:37 AM PDT

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      •  The going rate is good, but they get (1+ / 0-)
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        really fed up if you try to make change.  It's pretty common here to end up in line at the grocery, hand the cashier the equivalent of a $20 bill for $5 in groceries, and have him say no, flat-out.  That's it?  Just 'no'?  

        No.  

        Which can be really problematic if ya don't have another bill on you, I'm just saying.  That nearly no one takes credit doesn't make things easier.  I actually tried to get lunch the other day at a place with signs all over announcing it took credit cards, and the cashier said, bluntly, no.

        "But... why not?"
        "No."
        "The signs say you do."
        "It doesn't work."

        Oh.  

        Let's just say there are a lot of things I love about being here, but I wouldn't live here.

        Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

        by pico on Fri Jul 02, 2010 at 11:12:35 AM PDT

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        •  Wow. Still it's (1+ / 0-)
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          better than before the collapse? Worse? What do you think?

          The currency issues sound similar to stuff I've run into in the Dominican Republic and El Salvador, only there it was much less serious.

          -9.0, -8.3 "...the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year" --AP, 6/9/2010

          by SensibleShoes on Fri Jul 02, 2010 at 11:17:02 AM PDT

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          •  Generally much better, although (1+ / 0-)
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            recent overall economic depression and unemployment has led to - surprise! - a scapegoating of the immigrants who come into our land and steal our jobs, so some things never change.  But in some respects it's gotten a lot easier to move around, as an outsider, than when I first started coming here a little over ten years ago (in terms of currency, buying and selling, not getting stopped by the police, etc.)  I'm just surprised that the credit thing is still lagging, given that I'm one of the world's most expensive cities.  Sheesh.

            Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

            by pico on Fri Jul 02, 2010 at 11:21:10 AM PDT

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            •  Hm. It sounds like it (0+ / 0-)
              is actually related to the communications system, from what the guy said. Although no, because they could still run the cards by taking an imprint of them. Even some businesses in the US still do that.

              -9.0, -8.3 "...the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year" --AP, 6/9/2010

              by SensibleShoes on Fri Jul 02, 2010 at 11:53:25 AM PDT

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              •  I meant more the (1+ / 0-)
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                "practically nobody accepts them" part.  Even the McD's, which, yes, I finally caved because I was craving a milkshake today.

                Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

                by pico on Fri Jul 02, 2010 at 12:16:49 PM PDT

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                •  The famous McDonalds! (1+ / 0-)
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                  I remember the news stories about it.

                  -9.0, -8.3 "...the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year" --AP, 6/9/2010

                  by SensibleShoes on Fri Jul 02, 2010 at 12:36:29 PM PDT

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