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  •  The Just World fallacy (3+ / 0-)
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    They were succumbing to the Just World fallacy.  That there is no way the nice (white) cop who just broke down on the stand crying actually meant to kill that (black) boy.

    So there goes any degree of murder right out the window.  Never mind the evidence.

    Now they're deliberating between three things:  voluntary manslaughter, involuntary, and acquittal.  Given the strong structural incentives toward compromise that are inherent in jury deliberations, and the strong pull of the Just World fallacy (the victim must have deserved it, the cop is never completely wrong), there was no realistic way that any jury -- at least not one with no black people on it at all -- were going to convict of anything stronger than involuntary.

    It's heartbreaking and wrong, but such is the degree of deference to cops in our society.

    "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression." -Thomas Paine

    by sierrak9s on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 10:49:47 AM PDT

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    •  you are on fire today, sierrak. (2+ / 0-)
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      That there is no way the nice (white) cop who just broke down on the stand crying actually meant to kill that (black) boy.

      Only, I bet they said, "...actually meant to kill that (menacing, black) boy.  After all, any of us would've been scared, right?"

      Teach us to listen to sounds larger than our own heartbeat; that endure longer than our own weeping in the dark. - Lillian Smith

      by RadioGirl on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 11:56:51 AM PDT

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      •  I've been in a rage since this morning (2+ / 0-)
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        when I heard about the verdict.  I know, I know what I said, that there was no way 'twould be otherwise -- but that doesn't make it hurt less.

        For a time, a short time, I thought this case would be different.  That anyone looking at the facts, and his crazy lame excuse (Tasers are just like guns, promise!) would see what happened here.

        I was being foolish and naive.

        You know what gets me?  There is no physical way he could possibly be telling the truth.  Not because the Taser is so different from a gun -- although it is -- and not because we know the whole scene was a racist beatdown from the getgo -- although it was.

        But because the other cop was touching Oscar Grant when Mehserle shot him.  Human beings conduct electricity, they don't conduct bullets.  You do not, ever, under any circumstances, Taser a suspect when other cops are holding him.  You shout a warning -- Taser Taser Taser -- so they'll let go and not themselves get shocked.

        But can you shoot a man without harming your partner?  Easy as pie.

        I don't care what kind of stress, or confusion, or panic got to Mehserle.  If he'd been about to deliver a Taser shock, he would have warned his partner.  Full stop.

        "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression." -Thomas Paine

        by sierrak9s on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 12:13:40 PM PDT

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        •  I know, I feel the same way. (1+ / 0-)
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          Exactly the same way.

          Grateful for your presence, sierrak.

          Teach us to listen to sounds larger than our own heartbeat; that endure longer than our own weeping in the dark. - Lillian Smith

          by RadioGirl on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 01:34:41 PM PDT

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