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  •  It's true. (2+ / 0-)
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    Dirtandiron, aufklaerer

    When is the last time

    "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

    by happy camper on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:00:54 AM PDT

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    •  To continue... (14+ / 0-)

      When is the last time you read a news item where a union, especially one engaged in contract negotiations or, horror of horrors, a strike, was portrayed in a positive light? It's always focused on how union members are making too much, or costing too much, or not working hard enough, or destroying the competitiveness of our industries.

      Always.

      The MSM never, ever, gives organized labor a fair hearing. Ever.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:04:47 AM PDT

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      •  Before I answer that question... (1+ / 0-)
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        Sparhawk

        ...I'll ask you for the criteria for determining "positive light."

        •  For example (4+ / 0-)
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          teacherken, dsb, happy camper, Mike08

          There was no story in our newspaper about the teacher's union in our district during the last round of negotiations.

          The district, with severe financial difficulty like every other district, proposed the state's solution of cutting 5 days of school.

          The teachers countered with an offer to teach those days but to contribute an equivalent amount of money that would have been saved into their health care costs.

          Net result: the district gets the savings it needs but the kids are better off.

          This could not have happened without the union looking at the long term and deciding that what was best for the kids' education was best for them too.

          Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

          by elfling on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 10:02:00 AM PDT

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          •  You're talking about coverage period... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...which is a whole other issue.

            Question.  How does the district save by expending the "equivalent amount of money" elsewhere?

            •  What I mean is (0+ / 0-)

              that the teacher salaries officially stayed the same, but the teachers contributed the cash equivalent of those working days toward their health insurance costs, lessening the cost of each teacher to the district by the same amount as if the teachers had been given those days off without pay. Basically, they elected to work without pay instead.

              Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

              by elfling on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 05:44:32 PM PDT

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