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  •  See Scott Brown. Really, if I recall (0+ / 0-)

    it was Union members, confused into voting against their best interests, that created that 60th vote in the Senate.

    "Bigger change will come with bigger Democratic majorities. Diminishing Democratic accomplishments is a losing strategy." sja May Peace Prevail

    by revgerry on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:33:50 AM PDT

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    •  It wasn't just that (5+ / 0-)

      Bottom line, the person most to blame for Brown winning that seat was Martha Coakley, for acting like she had the election in the bag just because she had a D after her name.

    •  Maybe Coakley should have (6+ / 0-)

      convinced people to vote for her instead of simply assuming that they would.

      How many union members in Mass? Enough to swing an election? If so, she messed up by ignoring them, didn't she?

      Blame the unions. Nice.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:37:40 AM PDT

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      •  I don't know all the details (1+ / 0-)
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        about Martha Coakley, but some here have suggested that she was asleep at the wheel during the campaign. To expect unions to provide energy and enthusiasm the candidate lacks is insulting. We're staring this same abyss in the face right now in Ohio — and as far as I know, the unions are behind our candidate. But the candidate himself is virtually invisible.

        De-orangify Congress: Justin Coussoule for Oh-08

        by anastasia p on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 10:14:43 AM PDT

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    •  And you know how every union member voted? n/t (0+ / 0-)
    •  Cadillac Tax (3+ / 0-)
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      The election of Scott Brown was a protest vote.

      This administration wanted to eviscerate decent existing employer-provided health care plans to pay for the health care bill.  And it may have succeeded in the long term.

      That debate happened right before the MA special election.

      And lots of people either stayed home or voted for Brown because of it.

      So, I don't think that "confused" is the correct word.  I think that many voters made a strategic decision to try to kill that version of the health care bill.

      Now, one can disagree with the logic.  But that was not a confused vote.

      by DingellDem on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 08:01:21 AM PDT

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      •  One more reason to say that saying (1+ / 0-)
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        Obama is better than Bush on unions is meaningless.

        Obama (and his ed henchman, Arne Duncan) is amping up the charter behemoth, the blob that is eating Manhattan (and many other boros and places) public schools, doing so quite effectively from its "race to the top" catbird seat. He likes merit pay, likes firing teachers, charter/private schools over public schools... he is not a pro union president.

        As Ravitch says, he is taking NCLB to levels worse than Bush, because Bush couldnt have gotten away with what he is on NCLB, with Congress.

        This charterization nightmare - In New York, they have taken charter schools to new levels, already spreading out like crab grass to choke public schools, to win Race to the Top$$$, they pumped it up more than double. Went from 200 to to 460 charters allowed, passed by leg. this spring.

        All to get that damned Obama/Duncan BS money, RttT.

        Should a "progressive" Dem blog dwell in the safe zones of a tame party, or should it drive a tame party to break out?

        by NYCee on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 12:05:12 PM PDT

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        •  You should ask yourself... (0+ / 0-)

          ...why are so many New York parents (like myself) trying to send their kids to Charters?

          The schools in my neighborhood are horrible -- but a charter has opened up and we are gleefully sending our daughter there. You call it a "nightmare" but for parents it is a dream.

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