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  •  Bullshit! (0+ / 0-)

    All workers have a choice and know the risk with all the news coverage going on.  I am sure that they have to sign something that says that they know the risk.  You always have a choice to walk away.  As far as I know we don't allow slaves to legally be owned here in the US.  BP is doing bad things, no doubt about it.  The US is doing investigations, and hopefully will go after them when the dust has all settled or maybe before.  The real solution is to get the oil leak plugged.  That has been the nuber one solution from day one.  The US is dependent on BP for that.  BP will have a lot to answer for in years to come.

    •  Yeah, just like the Exxon-Valdez, (3+ / 0-)

      which walked away with a damage Alaskan environment and reduced amounts to PAY.  How long does it take to learn this?  And why is haz mat suits, with respirators not required?  And why is the government slow on this?

      •  Pres Obama is way ahead of that era (2+ / 0-)
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        Or do you oppose that 'slush' fund as well as Sharron Angle put it?

        Too bad you can't directly pin this one on Pres Obama since he wasn't in charge during the Exxon Valdez.

        So why is "obama so slow"--finish it like Booby Jindal keeps on ranting and raving he is YT those GOP govs are the ones who DO NOT utilize what the President has made available to them AND have LOCKED UP their OWN records on how they have dealt with the situation so that people will ATTACK President Obama like they are--how useful a statement to bolster the GOP up there.

        Please vote Democratic in November. If the GOP wins we will all be forced backward another decade, who wants that?

        by Wary on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:45:45 AM PDT

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        •  20B is not even a drop (3+ / 0-)
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          in the bucket.  Folks don't realize, that is all BP is going to pay.  At this moment they are lawyering up and the fight when this is capped will be for money.  Of course, Obama did not cause this spill, but it happened on his watch and he has to take the hit.  But don't argue with me on this one, go to the Gulf and tell them.  Those people are hotter than hell at BP and this administration, as my father who lives there says, "BP is in charge, not the government."

          •  Actually, the $20 Billion Fund (0+ / 0-)

            is (I hate to admit) prudent planning on the part of BP.

            I'm guessing if you're a business in the Gulf impacted by the gusher, and if you opt to be paid compensation by BP, you're signing paper work prior stating you're NOT going to sue BP for any sort of damages.

            anyone seen the paper work on this?

            "The U.S. is almost becoming institutionalized like prison inmates resigned to their fate". bmaz

            by Superpole on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 07:02:10 AM PDT

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            •  Since you're asking the question (1+ / 0-)
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              Why not search for the answer?

              Geeze, i hate sounding redundant but here in KY the 'conservatives' on message boards ALWAYS ask questions and expect Dems to search it out--we always tell them to do their OWN Research and get back to us.

              Going from KY message boards to Daily Kos--what a trip!

              Please vote Democratic in November. If the GOP wins we will all be forced backward another decade, who wants that?

              by Wary on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 07:24:15 AM PDT

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              •  Because... (3+ / 0-)
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                icebergslim stated her father lives there..

                presumably he knows people who have signed the paperwork agreeing to be compensated by BP...

                uhh, and you actually think BP would allow the paperwork to be posted on the web?

                really?

                "The U.S. is almost becoming institutionalized like prison inmates resigned to their fate". bmaz

                by Superpole on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 07:29:13 AM PDT

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            •  Taking money now doesn'T stop you (1+ / 0-)
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              foufou

              from suing later, a BIG deal was made about thAT FACT.

          •  Happened on his watch so bitch at him? (4+ / 0-)
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            And whatever you do

            DO NOT remind his own people that their GOVERNOR sealed his records, just keep on pummling President Obama in these meta diaries to help the gop out? How then are YOU helping the people in the region by feeding into their own misinformation by helping out the very people that is harming them their own Govenor?

            For more than two months, Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana has made it clear that he considers the response of the federal government and BP to the gulf oil leak a failure on many fronts.....

            In his veto letter, the governor asserted that opening the records could give BP and other companies involved in the Deepwater Horizon blowout an advantage in future litigation over damages to the state..........

            But Zygmunt Plater, a law professor at Boston College who served as chairman of an Alaskan legal task force after the Exxon Valdez spill in 1989, called the governor’s legal rationale flawed, particularly in regard to tallying environmental damage.

            Jindal HIDES his response to BP from constitutents

            Oh and I have written a few letters to news papers down there to help expose old Jindal, not one has been printed BUT at least I'm trying to help them and not spouting the Jindal GOP matra to keep hurting them.

            Please vote Democratic in November. If the GOP wins we will all be forced backward another decade, who wants that?

            by Wary on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 07:03:48 AM PDT

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          •  That's all they're going to pay? (1+ / 0-)
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            With all due respect, that's nuts.

            They will pay far more than that.  That $20 billion fund for defraying immediate economic damages does nothing to mitigate the natural resource damages they've caused.  On top of that will be the short- and long-term cleanup and restoration costs.  All the lawyers that have ever existed, dancing on the head of a pin, won't get them out of that.  

          •  People here realize that (0+ / 0-)

            $20B is all BP is going to pay, if they even end up paying that out to anyone other than their subcontractors.  But they really don't care as long as that $20B gives Obama political cover, then nothing else about the Gulf, its people and communities, its ecology and wildlife, matters to them.  That's what's called "pragmatism" these days.  

            We who have been nothing shall be all. This is the final struggle. ~E. Pottier

            by ActivistGuy on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 08:22:46 AM PDT

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        •  Actually judging by BP and all branches of Govt (3+ / 0-)
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          ...with their inadequate responses,

          This has proven we haven't learned a goddamned thing in the last 20 years.

          Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

          by Scarce on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:57:13 AM PDT

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    •  More (2+ / 0-)
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      June 15, 2010

      Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

      by Scarce on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:43:54 AM PDT

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    •  Get out of here with that bullshit! (3+ / 0-)
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      They have a choice to "walk away"? Under that theory, there should be no worker health and safety regulations anywhere, just close down OSHA entirely, because after all, we don't have slavery in the U.S.

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