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  •  Senate incumbents have 6 years... (1+ / 0-)
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    of relationships and fundraising, also folks are less reactionary with senate votes because they are six year terms, whereas with House members it's every two years.  I think this could be seen in the Massachusetts Brown vs Coakley vote as folks were willing to punish Coakley for running a bad campaign and being a poor candidate because it was only a two year gig.

    In open Senate seats, I think there is enough money on both sides to be viable and seen - so it comes down to messaging. However in Ohio this year Portman is looking to have a huge fundraising advantage over Fisher, upwards of 8-to-1, so it will be interesting to see.    

    Politics is like playing Asteroids - You go far enough to the left and you end up on the right. Or vice-versa.

    by Jonze on Sun Jul 11, 2010 at 08:57:30 AM PDT

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    •  The MA non-vote was a protest vote (1+ / 0-)
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      Yes, Coakley was a crap candidate with a crappy, corporatist agenda. 840,000 Obama voters stayed home because they were sick of being sold out by the Boston Brahmins and the Washington Democrats. So, Brown won with only 64,000 more votes than McCain got the previous year.  

      Democratic corporatism is the fastest road to oblivion. Campaign contributions will pave the way and speed their journey back to minority status.

      •  Would that protest vote have happened... (0+ / 0-)

        If it was for a full six year term though?

        Politics is like playing Asteroids - You go far enough to the left and you end up on the right. Or vice-versa.

        by Jonze on Sun Jul 11, 2010 at 09:06:08 AM PDT

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        •  Maybe not. (0+ / 0-)

          If the Democrats ran a real Democrat - not this neoliberal bullshit - in 2012, getting rid of Brown will be easy (though every politician coming out of the Boston machine is treated with suspicion by the rest of us). So yes, it was easy to sit the election out, because Brown is easily defeatable in 2 years time.

          Would the Democrats have been able to seduce 65,000 former Obama supporters to back for Coakley if it were a 6 year term? I think that might be more likely.

          But hundreds of thousands of former Obama supporters would have still stayed home, because Coakley was a corporate welfare-peddling hack, with all the charm of a shark and we're all still so fucking furious at the Democrats for betraying us on the economy, jobs, the wars and the environment.

          Those who can't vote for Republicans stay home when Democrats act like Republicans.

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      I think in the Senate it is important to tell the people that while both houses of Congress are very (and equally) important, it is the Senate who confirms SCOTUS justices. We need to tell them that if President Obama is able to appoint a replacement for one of the evil 5, we will have a court committed to civil justice and legislating fairness and equity, rather than siding with corporate interests. We are one vote away in the Court to codidfy equal marriage rights for all people, regardless of fetish, from enacting sensible gun laws and doing away with the state sponsored death penalty. These are the messsages we need to get out to the voters in regards to Senate races.

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