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  •  Cohort studies aren't used for confirming... (0+ / 0-)

    ...carcinogens, which is why formaldehyde was only classified as "Probable" for years and years and why Aspartame is still not classified as such.

    Pg 43, paragraph 3-5

    (It won't let me copy/paste text from that link.)

    ...and that's ignoring the multiple studies which found no association whatsoever, and the fact the studies in question relied on death certificates which may or may not have had the proper diagnosis.

    •  nope. not buying your revisionism again (1+ / 0-)
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      cohort studies and case-controlled studies do make for compelling evidence:

      5.5 Evaluation
      There is sufficient evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of formaldehyde.
      There is sufficient evidence in experimental animals for the carcinogenicity of formaldehyde.
      Overall evaluation
      Formaldehyde is carcinogenic to humans (Group 1).
      For definitions of the italicized terms, see Preamble evaluation.
      Previous evaluations: Vol. 29 (1982); Suppl. 7 (1987); Vol. 62 (1995)

      and thn WHO also does not share you take on the data either.

      there are mountains of data.

      you choose to ignore or downplay or misrepresent the data.  not sure why but it is bothersome.

      knock yourself out.  i'm done with you.

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      by dadanation on Mon Jul 19, 2010 at 12:18:26 PM PDT

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      •  Thank you, dadanation (1+ / 0-)
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        I appreciate your efforts though I fear they may be wasted in this instance.

        To be clear, it's "EClectablog", not "Electablog".
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        by Eclectablog on Mon Jul 19, 2010 at 12:59:43 PM PDT

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        •  hopefully someone who might have disbelieved (1+ / 0-)
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          your great diary based on this person's postings will now know that in fact the facts do support both your diary and the threat posed to us by formaldehyde.

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          by dadanation on Mon Jul 19, 2010 at 04:10:56 PM PDT

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      •  Only because WHO ignored multiple studies. (0+ / 0-)

        The only one even they considered plausible was Nasopharyngeal cancer, where the cohort studies were 2 for... and 3 against.  The most recent combined study was from 1997, and didn't include most of the recent, negative cohort studies.  Of the case control studies, only 1 of 7 found any statistically significant increase.

        They declared it carcinogenic some time ago, and have struggled against having to walk back the findings in light of negative recent studies.

        This is looking increasingly like a political decision and less like a scientific one.

        •  blah blah blah trixie (0+ / 0-)

          blah blah blah trixie blah blah blah trixie blah blah blah trixie blah blah blah trixie blah blah blah trixie blah blah blah trixie blah blah blah trixie

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          There is a certain charm in the purity of irrelevance. But the more relevant you get, the more real you have to get. (Barney Frank)

          by dadanation on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 06:20:00 PM PDT

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