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  •  I don't see a "reasonable" compromise (0+ / 0-)

    I'm just commenting that your diary is about what you expect will likely happen, rather than something that has.

    •  I agree. It is speculative (2+ / 0-)
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      musing85, bythesea

      Do you want to speculate on another way Congress and the Admin reconciles these two policy positions?

      1. No LGBT inclusion
      1. LGBT inclusion

      My speculation is we'll see #1 play out. I'm willing to hear out how this could play out with option #2.

      Trickle down Equality isn't working

      by Scott Wooledge on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 10:20:10 AM PDT

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      •  No, my guess would be (1+ / 0-)
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        that you are correct based on past experience, only that no such thing has happened yet, and there may yet be some hope of avoiding it.  Either way it hasn't happened nor seems likely to any time soon. However I think you and some of the commenters are interpreting my comment as far more critical than it's actually intended.  Why do you think I tipped and rec'd this diary in the first place?

        •  Well, my tactic to avoid it (5+ / 0-)

          is to point out early the problem with the strategy that appears to be set. Hence this diary, is an attempt to educate and engage support for LGBT inclusion.

          Which not incidentally was that last plan: Candidate Obama explained to the LGBT community his failure to sponsor the stand alone LGBT-immigration rights bill, Uniting American Families Act by expressing his commitment to including LGBT in a CIR package.

          Allying with people who are diametrically opposed to that goal is an odd way to accomplish it.

          Trickle down Equality isn't working

          by Scott Wooledge on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 10:36:55 AM PDT

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      •  Please do all you can to avoid the argument that (1+ / 0-)
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        a greater cause is accomplished by passing the half glass. I still don't want company on my mourning bench that does not have to be there. I'd rather both causes be dancing, but I'd rather one than none, and it ain't mine but still can be yours. Go for it.

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