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    "I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there. I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding," he said.

    I will readily admit that I am making an assumption.

    If he wasn't...then what is his position.  This sounds like the I am against same sex marriage but I believe Prop 8 is unconstitutional.

    No I seriously doubt, that in this case it is his position.  But he has now opened that door, but more likely he has created unnecessary ambiguity out of political expediency, which is on of my biggest frustrations with this WH.  What position is not open to compromise?  

    Tell me one?  

    "Ultimately, we need to move beyond the tired debates of the left and the right, between business leaders and environmentalists" - President Obama, March 31

    by justmy2 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 at 11:43:34 PM PDT

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    •  "Making an asumption"... (0+ / 0-)

      Pffffffftttttttttt....

      Making up stuff is more like it.

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      What is his position?

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      On building mosques and "that" mosque...

      President Obama supports the Constitution and what it guarantees concerning freedom of religion.  

      He declines to state his position on that specific building site.  

      Period.

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      On gay marriage...

      President Obama personally does not support gay marriage.  

      He believes that Prop 8 is unconstitutional.  

      Period.

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      There is absolutely no, zero, nada, zilch ambiguity or compromise in those positions.

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      President Obama has, as far as I know, presented no reasons for his belief, that seems to be something personal which he has not shared.  

      Personally, I don't see "not supporting" as the same as "being opposed to".  I see nothing in his behavior which indicates that he opposes the gay marriage.

      Obama quote count - "Hold my feet to the fire" (3) - "Help me work for a better America" (137) --- [Phony numbers, real message]

      by BobTrips on Sun Aug 15, 2010 at 12:12:00 AM PDT

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      •  Are you saying he supports gay marriage? (0+ / 0-)

        Or did you make a mistake late at night...

        I want to make sure I understand your point before I response.

        "Ultimately, we need to move beyond the tired debates of the left and the right, between business leaders and environmentalists" - President Obama, March 31

        by justmy2 on Sun Aug 15, 2010 at 06:08:09 AM PDT

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        •  It was late at night... (0+ / 0-)

          When I wrote...

          President Obama personally does not support gay marriage.

          And then you asked...

          Are you saying he supports gay marriage?

          In the light of day can you understand what I wrote?

          Obama quote count - "Hold my feet to the fire" (3) - "Help me work for a better America" (137) --- [Phony numbers, real message]

          by BobTrips on Sun Aug 15, 2010 at 08:51:03 AM PDT

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    •  As to the wisdom of building a mosque there, (0+ / 0-)

      I can't comment either. Who knows whether some right wing kook will blow up the building and it will turn out to be perhaps an "unwise" decision. Or perhaps, I hope, it will be a place of interfaith discussion and learning and will help change some people's minds about Islam and therefore be a "wise" decision.

      But beyond anyone deciding whether a certain decision is wise or unwise before the ramifications are seen is the fact that it is not the duty of the POTUS to decide for local officials what to do.

      What I do know is that the people have the  right to build the mosque there and I support that right. And so does the President.

      •  Deciding for officials...is not the same (0+ / 0-)

        as taking a position.  

        The President statement on Friday spoke for itself.  Yesterday, he decided to create ambiguity.

        I am disappointed that people are now seemingly falling into the trap that they only have a "right".  

        There is no credible reason to object the building the mosque.  None.  Zero. Zilch.

        And what I see now is people who were all for it Friday, now reverting to a claim that they just have a right, and it is not appropriate to take sides.

        Sometimes it is appropriate to take sides.  No one is asking anyone to force anyone to make a decision.  But to state the fear of religion or Islam is only increased by this backlash, and we are not doing ourselves anywhere.

        If he was going to wade in, he knew he would be asked to take a side.  The current position is too cute by half.

        "Ultimately, we need to move beyond the tired debates of the left and the right, between business leaders and environmentalists" - President Obama, March 31

        by justmy2 on Sun Aug 15, 2010 at 06:15:28 AM PDT

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    •  The Prezident (0+ / 0-)

      took exactly the same position as Anthony Weiner.

      The constitutional right of White Supremists to free speech in support of their cause, does not mean that I agree with that free speech as being morally correct.

      See the difference.

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