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  •  But that's what it sounds like... (0+ / 0-)

    they are getting at with their 12 beliefs.  For example, step 4 of the AA is "Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves."

    •  That's the last thing tea partiers will do. (1+ / 0-)
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      "Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves."

      They'll make an inventory of the libruls though.

      "It is a communist chocolate hellhole and I'm here to stop it ever happening." Eloi Cole

      by perro amarillo on Sat Jul 24, 2010 at 08:47:12 PM PDT

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      •  Exactly, it's like a 12 Step Program... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...that is directed towards others rather than themselves, but this is the "do as I say, not as I do" crowd, IMO.

        •  Heh ... in other words (3+ / 0-)
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          it's like a 12 step program that's completely the opposite of a 12 step program.

          Similarly, the Tea Party is like the progressive movement, in that it's completely unlike the progressive movement.

          "With all this manure around, there has to be a pony somewhere!" - Count Piotr Vorkosigan

          by jrooth on Sat Jul 24, 2010 at 09:00:57 PM PDT

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          •  Bingo. There's very little self-awareness there. (0+ / 0-)

            "It is a communist chocolate hellhole and I'm here to stop it ever happening." Eloi Cole

            by perro amarillo on Sat Jul 24, 2010 at 09:22:08 PM PDT

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          •  I think the Tea Party is an attempt... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...to sound like things, such as a "12 Step Program," that are generally viewed in a positive light, while in reality it encourages the "base elements."  It is a repranding of the Bush/Cheney agenda, though perhaps more extreme.  My point is that a lot of people are drawn to this kind of language, and don't question what the leaders, like Paul and Angle, seem to want to do if they ever get the power.  This one person I spoke to, in particular, has problems with basic critical thinking skills, IMO.

    •  I think they believe (2+ / 0-)
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      they are already healed. I think you could go down the list and say "that's me" to every trait if you fell into the trap. In AA members make an inventory of their good and their bad, and try to overcome the character defects that led to the addiction. I think the average tea party person is egotistical, but a recovering alcoholic with a large ego will struggle. The AA steps are meant to be used for a personal journey and I just don't see that as the motivation to become a tea partier. A Glen Beck 9 stepper maybe. (I think he has nine in his plan to become a real American)

      •  I agree that you may be technically correct... (0+ / 0-)

        ...but as I said, I was trying to be humorous while telling this story about this apparently typical Tea Party person.  However, I think there is an important similarity, in that instead of focusing on policy issues and explaining exactly where they differ with the 2 major parties, they get involved in things like personality traits, "higher powers," etc.  I don't care if the guy I vote for is a uptight slob who is full of himself, as long as he "gets the job done."

      •  character defects do not lead to addiction (0+ / 0-)

        They just make it real easy to take that first drink. The addiction is genetic, not moral.

        I don't think you can be a success at anything if you think about losing, whether it's in sports or in politics. ~Edward Kennedy

        by denig on Sat Jul 24, 2010 at 09:20:36 PM PDT

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    •  I can see your point (0+ / 0-)

      in some ways though. It is an attempt to quantify your level of commitment, but there is no action. I don't think a tea partier lays in bed at night and thinks about what s/he would change about themselves or do better tomorrow. I think they lay in bed at night fearing what happened today that sends the country further into whatever direction Fox told them we are going.

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