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  •  If the White House planted him ... (4.00)
    they didn't need to vet him now, did they? For backgrounds and such? They knew exactly who they were getting ... they groomed him for it. And I'm sure the press corps itself doesn't have any say about who is in the press pool and who is not. I'd think a news outlet proposes someone, the White House does a background check, they're accepted.

    So Talon proposes Gannon (who's already been vetted and primed for this job by the White House), the White House says it did a background check and accepts him.

    •  FOIA (none)
      Can we FOIA his FBI records?  If he was vetted by the FBI, he would have a file.

      We fight on. We fight for ourselves and the people who do not have a voice.

      by mlk on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 08:13:56 AM PST

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      •  and if he wasn't (none)
        Then that might be very revealing too.

        The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. - Sir Winston Churchill

        by drewthaler on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 08:17:50 AM PST

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      •  Sure, but we need a real name (none)
        That's the real problem.

        How can you do an FOIA for someone who doesn't have a real name?

        FOIA's should definitely go out for anything to do with Talon News, GOPUSA and this

        I'm hoping someone with FOIA experience will up and volunteer to start the process. I haven't done one in years and I'm not sure I can keep up with gathering, sorting and summarizing all this information as well as putting out FOIA requests.

        •  Do we need his real name (none)
          or can we FOIA his alias?  If they wanted to make it look legit, they would have a file under his alias and create a past for this person (ok, I watch way too much Alias on TV).  We get that fake file and prove he's a phony.

          We fight on. We fight for ourselves and the people who do not have a voice.

          by mlk on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 08:22:02 AM PST

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        •  I would suggest (none)
          that his real name and FOIA arent so important right now.

          Now Im no lawyer, but,
          As it stands, our story basically revolves around the fact that a well connected partisan hack with a shady past has made his way into Whitehouse Press Corp. There is no apparant crime in that.

          Now, if the man we know as Jeff Gannon is running an  illegitimate non-profit, that is fraud and tax evasion. That is a crime.

          It seems to me that we need to get that story out into the mainstream and the other pieces will fall into places after that.


          •  That only works (none)
            if you can 100% prove the link.  Remember, we are Dems and are held to a higher standard of evidence than freepers.  RWCM will buy any innuendo from the freepers, but for us, we need to prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

            We fight on. We fight for ourselves and the people who do not have a voice.

            by mlk on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 08:41:22 AM PST

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            •  Well, its not like itd be hard to prove (none)
              Non Profits are required to disclose to the public their filings every year.

              I did a search at the IRS website and isnt even listed as a non-profit.

              So there is one piece of evidence right there.

              Somebody that knows a little bit about Tax Law needs to contact the IRS or something.

      •  i believe the secret service does the vetting (none)

        support the troops......impeach the president

        by evaguitar on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 08:36:21 AM PST

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      •  Privacy Act (none)
        The Privacy Act would prevent the release of things like his FBI file unless and until he signs a release (or unless and until he dies -- however, recent decisions involving Vince Foster indicate that in some cases privacy protection extends beyond death.)
      •  Not without his written permission (none)
        You can't get any FBI files on living people unless they agree to it.  

        And just because reporters are vetted before giving them credentials does not necessarily mean there IS an FBI file. I have no idea who does those background checks, but the FBI does them for people being hired by the government for many types of jobs.

        It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

        by TheOtherWashington on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 08:53:57 AM PST

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      •  Don't FOIA him, FOIA the White House Press Office (4.00)
        If you can figure out the process by which he got credentials (which ought to be a hoot of a read) then you've got a huge part of the puzzle. Names, dates, etc.

        Talon News makes FOX look almost legitimate, which is scary. But this is the atmosphere the WH has created. Just make stuff up. WMD, al-qaida connections, whatever, and then spoon-feed them to fake reporters.

        "The concentrating [of the legislative, executive and judicial powers] in the same hands is precisely the definition of despotic government." - Jefferson

        by El Payo on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 09:02:26 AM PST

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    •  but Susan.. (4.00)
      Great work BTW.

      You have to be from a legitimate news organization to get in. You can't just hang up a shingle and say you are a reporter.

      This means someone has broken the rules. The White House Correspondents Club should be angry and should have said something.

      They are pretty toothless, as you can tell by what this administration gets away with -- few news conferences, no follow-up questions etc. but perhaps the correspondents have made a protest that no one knows about. Here is a list of their directors. Maybe someone can see if they will comment.

      Ron Hutcheson
      Knight Ridder

      Vice President
      Mark Smith
      AP Radio

      Doug Mills
      The New York Times

      Edwin Chen
      Los Angeles Times

      Board Members
      Steve Scully, C-SPAN
      Jim Angle, Fox News
      Kenneth Walsh, U.S. News &World Report
      Mike Allen, The Washington Post
      Terence Hunt, Associated Press

      Former President and Sustaining Member
      Edgar A. Poe, New Orleans Times-Picayune

      Executive Director
      Julia Whiston

      this is rumor control, news and analysis on the appalling mess we're in

      by quickiemart on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 12:49:36 PM PST

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