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  •  And then what about those workers who (0+ / 0-)

    are not in a union?

    "I can't go to sleep. Someone on the internet is wrong!"

    by DrJeremy on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 12:43:34 AM PDT

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    •  That's the idea (6+ / 0-)

      It's not an either/or proposition.  I can be a ardent union member and supporter (which I am) and work for laws that cover all workers.

      Being in a union actually helps that because it helps me and other people who feel the same way to exercise political power so that we can elect people who will pass and enforce those laws.

      Procrastination: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.

      by Linnaeus on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 12:49:01 AM PDT

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    •  Do you live in a right to work state or in a (2+ / 0-)
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      union shop state?  The right to work states allow "freeloaders" not to pay dues but to expect services and benefits from the union, which is supported by its dues paying members. "This forces unions to use their time and members’ dues money to provide union benefits to free riders who are not willing to pay their fair share."  Such a system creates many conflicts between union and non-union workers.

      Fortunately Illinois has union shops, so many union/nonunion worker internal problems do not arise.  All of us pay union dues (no employee choice) to work for contracts that benefit us all.  We petition the labor relations board to have new titles added to our bargaining unit to allow more workers to experience the benefits of the union.  We want to support all employees who potentially can fall under our Union.

    •  reading comprehension fail (1+ / 0-)
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      non-unionized workers are politically impotent to force legislation (even by the beaten-down american union labor standard!), and their employers generally will mistreat them until those workers push back, almost always in a union.

      your whole argument misses the point, much as political independents who wonder aloud why noone represents them in the government: individuals are very weak unless they have a ton of money and power. if regular people want the ability to change things, they need to join in solidarity with other people in a similar situation.

      without organized workers, laws regulating working conditions don't get passed. that's just the way things work, if you don't have a gajillion bucks to bribe legislators with, sadly.

      surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

      by wu ming on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 05:19:07 AM PDT

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