Skip to main content

View Diary: Unions 101 - Which Side Are You On? (130 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Bullshit (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Ivan, Dirtandiron

    When you go into management where I work you end up working twice as many hours for the same amount of pay. We figured out with the number of hours worked one of my old supervisors was actually making about $5.50 an hour. While we happily made $26.00. Workers move into management for the title and the supposed status not the money. Please produce some concrete facts about the lawsuit. Some links we can see. If you can't we know you're blowing smoke.

    •  I'm not going to do that. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      CS in AZ

      Not that I can't, but if I give enough detail I'd be revealing who these people are. We take job classification seriously as an institution (I work in the public sector, btw). In my part of the institution, it's all clerical/administrative work. There are no classified management positions that don't pay more than the positions they supervise unless there is a massive discrepancy in service (20 years or more). There are no exempt positions that don't pay more than non-exempt unless there a smaller discrepancy in service (about 10 years). What's more, this isn't a blind promotion - the staff need to approve the new job description in writing, which they happily did as they helped to write them. They know exactly what the new job entails.

      Seriously, do I sound like someone trying to screw them over?

      Leave it to Republicans to set the house on fire and then rant that the fire department is socialist.

      by johnsonwax on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 07:57:30 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Is it really a promotion, or is it simply (0+ / 0-)

        a change in job title so they can be put on salary, and worked long hours without overtime? Please understand, I'm not trying to be argumentative, I am just speculating about why a union might oppose something like that.

    •  Where you work is your company, not his (0+ / 0-)

      Citing what is happening at your job -- which I notice you do not provide any links or evidence to prove is true, we just have to take your word for it -- does not make what he is saying "bullshit" or have anything to do with it.

      Unions do this kind of thing in real life and denying it, and attacking the messenger, doesn't make your case stronger. Union advocates need to acknowledge the fact that unions are not perfect, and they have been losing membership over the years, and losing public support, and their own behavior at times is part of the reason for that. Dealing with that honestly would be a better strategy for boosting support and memberships for unions.

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

  • Recommended (155)
  • Community (62)
  • Civil Rights (38)
  • Baltimore (38)
  • Bernie Sanders (34)
  • Elections (30)
  • Culture (30)
  • Economy (30)
  • Law (25)
  • Texas (24)
  • Labor (21)
  • Rescued (21)
  • 2016 (21)
  • Education (20)
  • Environment (20)
  • Hillary Clinton (18)
  • Politics (17)
  • Freddie Gray (17)
  • Racism (17)
  • Media (17)
  • Click here for the mobile view of the site