Skip to main content

View Diary: U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote (NYT 9/4/1967) (274 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  An excellent example (3.00)
    of factually correct arguments destined to lose
    •  If you want to win (none)
      isn't there something to be said for getting your facts straight, before you decide on strategy?

      Gush about "a people having an election for the first time," and, oops, you've lost all credibility with anyone who a) remembers that Saddam held an election, too, and how mercilessly the US made fun of that -- or who b) has read up, even a little bit, on Iraqi history.

      It's the GOP that goes around saying things that are not true and are easily fact-checked. It's not so hard to congratulate Iraqis for voting -- without saying things that will trip you up.

      Massacre is not a family value.

      by Canadian Reader on Mon Jan 31, 2005 at 10:58:58 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  If you want to win (none)
        then you should continue reading what I said about marketing skills.  In any case, this is the first election for the people who voted yesterday in Iraq.  Only a fool would call the charades Saddam performed an election.  And if you pull out some old man who in his youth many, many decades ago who voted in a real election I'm going to puke.
        •  Look, check my user name. (none)
          I certainly want you to win, but I myself have no say in Democratic party tactics. Do what you like.

          Personally, I think better marketing would be a great thing. I just supposed you'd like to be aware that you were saying something that wasn't exactly true, something that Iraqis, the people you wanted to compliment, would know wasn't true. They know their own history; assuming they won't know about the 1920s when Iraq threw off the British Mandate, is like assuming an American won't know about the Boston Tea Party. It was that kind of defining moment.

          If you want to go on saying "first election" anyway, fine, your choice.

          Massacre is not a family value.

          by Canadian Reader on Mon Jan 31, 2005 at 11:50:58 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site