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  •  The downside of course... (3+ / 0-)
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    is an even more polorized congress with more representing the LW and RW of the political spectrum and getting nothing done..

    Obama - Change I still believe in

    by dvogel001 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 at 09:44:08 AM PDT

    •  Yep (0+ / 0-)

      If this came in another circumstances they may be a silver lining and a lesson to be learned by the Democratic leadership, now we just are going to get a bunch of teabagger republicans or teabagger appeasing republicans.

      "Arizona is the meth lab of democracy" Jon Stewart

      by Iberian on Mon Aug 09, 2010 at 09:52:26 AM PDT

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    •  Please note the proprietor's POV. (0+ / 0-)

      All those who love to invite people to leave who dare say that Democratic Party losses aren't the end of the world.

      Markos makes it clear over and over again that the emphasis around here is on "better" not "more."

      Kudos to him.

      Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. - JM Keynes

      by goinsouth on Mon Aug 09, 2010 at 11:09:43 AM PDT

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      •  as I have long said . . (2+ / 0-)
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        there are two groups of people at DKos.

        One is the "my party, right or wrong". Their mission in life is to elect D's instead of R's, period.  They wave their blue pennants and anxiously check the scoreboard to make sure they are scoring more runs than the Red Team. They are the "More Democrats" side of the dichotomy.

        On the other side are the "your party is in my way" group.  They have their set of principles that they fight for, and all that matters is gaining those goals. They anxiously examine every D around to make sure they support the principles, and are all in favor of kicking the ones who don't in the ass (or even kicking them out). They are the "Better Democrats" side of the dichotomy.

        Those sides can get along well as long as the D's live up to their principles.

        Alas, when the Dems DON'T live up to those principles (such as, say, now), then these two groups are completely incompatible, and their aims are utterly irreconcilable.  And the civil war begins.

        On one side, we get "But the Repugs are EVEN WORSE !!!!!!!!!"

        And on the other side, we get "What's the use in electing D's who just act like R's?"

        Those two sides are simply incompatible.  There can be no peace between them--until and unless the Dem Party finds its soul and its principles (and its balls) again.

        And I see zero chance of that happening.

        •  There are always those struggles... (0+ / 0-)

          within a party and there is a middle ground where we elect the most "pure" Democrat that is electable state-by-state and CD-by-CD depending on the facts, circumstances, primaries and political leanings of the area...

          Obama - Change I still believe in

          by dvogel001 on Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 06:16:00 AM PDT

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      •  Actually that is misrepresenting... (0+ / 0-)

        what KOS has said, he says both are important, but at different levels depending on the situation, More is important for maintaining a majority, better is important for getting good legislation through congress

        Obama - Change I still believe in

        by dvogel001 on Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 06:13:53 AM PDT

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