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  •  well, personally, I found it very sad. (5+ / 0-)

    I also believe that if he truly feels he has a case to make then he has the right to make it. I disagree a that it is bad for democrats.I think it is good that a 'trial' will go ahead even if it is just before the election.

    If the people cannot stand hearing the truth and would prefer it all swept under the rug then the electorate is as much to blame as Rangel and his ego.

    •  Two words: Dan Rostenkowski. (6+ / 0-)

      That was an ugly midterm.

      "Philosophy is useless; theology is worse"--Dire Straits

      by Bush Bites on Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 02:12:10 PM PDT

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    •  The truth needs to be revealed (6+ / 0-)

      and that goes for everything going on in this country.

      We have people who are becoming 'co-conspirators' with the Bushies merely because they have not done anything to bring the truth to the light of day.

      I say good for Charlie that he has the courage to stand up for himself when his colleagues are more than ready to throw him under the bus.

      The "tools" of the radical right: fear, hatred, division. Spiritually, they are totally 'bankrupt' individuals.

      by larkspurlane on Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 02:16:27 PM PDT

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      •  This brings to mind James Michael Curley (0+ / 0-)

        Curly was a scoundrel, but he was our scoundrel!

        Prison
        He is noted for having been elected to the Board of Aldermen in 1904 while in prison, having been convicted of fraud. Curley and an associate, Thomas Curley (no relation) took the civil service exams for postmen for two men in their district to help them get the jobs with the federal government. Though the incident gave him a dark reputation in respectable circles, it aided his image in working class or poor circles because they saw him as a man willing to stick his neck out to help a poor man.

        Prison
        In June 1947, he was sentenced to 6–18 months in a federal prison in Connecticut. John B. Hynes, who would defeat Curley for re-election, served as acting mayor during his absence. Curley spent five months in prison before being pardoned by President Truman, under pressure from the Massachusetts congressional delegation.

        I think Spencer Tracy played home in a movie called The Last Hurrah.

        If you are older than 55, never take a sleeping pill and a laxative at the same time!

        by fredlonsdale on Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 02:52:15 PM PDT

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    •  right in the middle of election season.. (1+ / 0-)
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      you don't think it will be bad for Dems having a corruption trial of the person in charge of writing tax laws for years?

      Those taxes that Dems want to be raised?  But, Rangel felt didn't apply to him?

      That's how you want the Democratic party to be seen right before the elections?

      Do you have any idea how many times they will be using the clips of Pelosi talking about "draining the swamp"?  and Pelosi saying this would be "the most honest, most open and most ethical" Congress in history??  And that's not even the Repubs!  The news media is already doing it!  Free campaigning for the Repubs!

      As I said before.. Pelosi is an idiot to have waited this long.  She could have quietly taken care of this many months ago.

      "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - G. Marx

      by Skeptical Bastard on Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 02:27:52 PM PDT

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      •  Make the charges be proven (1+ / 0-)
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        in court.  

        Besides, this is all tax stuff....people's eyes glaze over and the MSM won't cover it.  There is no sound-byte here...it is 40 pages of legalese, not easily condensed for the 6 p.m. news.

        If/when he's found guilty, Pelosi can crow all she wants about how she investigated one of her own, gave him his day in court, etc.

      •  No. I welcome the truth and believe it shows (2+ / 0-)
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        strength of character.  I don't believe in vigilantism and witchunts and that Maxine Waters and Charlie Rangel deserve their right to defend themselves.

        If they are judge guilty, so be it. If they are found innocent why should we condemn them out of hand?  That is NOT the American way. That is rapidly becoming the Repub way though.  If it were me I would put several Senators on trial too.

        •  you don't get to the point of having a trial (0+ / 0-)

          if you are innocent.. not in Congress, at least.

          But, fine.. have your trial..

          "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - G. Marx

          by Skeptical Bastard on Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 02:51:57 PM PDT

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          •  well, a 'trial' is what they are calling it (3+ / 0-)

            whatever the procedure is. A hearing, inquisition, investigation, whatever it is., they are calling it a a 'trial'.

            And as I said, I welcome it. It is one of the damned if you do, damned if you don't situations. Once the charges were brought, or released or whatever, and it became public, despite the fact that it has been on the back burner for months and months, the republicans had their ammunition one way or another.

            If they don't have it they will accuse Pelosi of being a hypocrite, they already are for Christ's sake. If they do have it they will accuse the democrats of being corrupt, they already are.

            Even if Waters and Rangel resigned and slunk away in disgrace tomorrow the repubs would still say what they will say anyway,

            Better to be open and transparent and show the people that the Democratic Party will not play favorites or be hypocritical.

            The facts/fictions are out of the bag and the vigilantes are already burning their crosses.

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