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  •  Okay, but again, (4+ / 0-)
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    otto, wilderness voice, SciMathGuy, Joieau

    those two impulses are not intrinsically linked.  Ethics are created and are distinctly separate from religion.  They are only thrust together by church leaders to assert the superiority of the institution.  You just CAN'T conflate ethics/morality and religion.

    "Religion allows people by the millions to believe things, that only a crazy person could believe on their own." -Sam Harris

    by XNeeOhCon on Wed Aug 18, 2010 at 09:58:29 AM PDT

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    •  Social control (2+ / 0-)
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      SciMathGuy, Joieau

      Is what ethics and religion are really about.  That is why I see so many similarities and the two seem intertwined to me.  Both are human constructs.

      The concept of separation between Church and State and the freedom of worship (or not to worship) are fairly recent concepts when you consider the entire history of humanity.

      If you take a time machine and go back several thousands of years ago, the "conservatives" of the day probably believed in ritual human sacrifice while the "progressives" were probably those who advocated a more "benign" form of animal sacrifice to appease the angry deity who has caused crop failures.

      Both practices appear cruel and barbaric today, but you would probably advocate for animal sacrifices as the more rational course.

      The original "Wicker Man" movie (with Christopher Lee) was interesting in that here you had a society that rejected Christianity and became fundamentalist pagans.  They were just as horrific and irrational as Christians during the Middle Ages, in the end as the crop failures mounted.

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