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  •  No disagreement here. (3+ / 0-)
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    I was unclear.

    One example of how decision-making is accomplished is provided by Michael Albert's Parecon model.  He proposes a core value that those with the most at stake in a decision have the most input.  In some cases, this will mean consensus decision-making is employed rather than majority vote or 2/3 or whatever.

    Your idea is very intriguing and parallels some of my thinking.  I see "space" opening up in our society, both physical and cultural, where Capitalism and government no longer care to be involved to any great extent.  These spaces could be considered vacuums in which alternative ways of doing things can develop, experiment and grow.

    I would think that a core element of your "anti-corporations" would be worker governance.  No one could claim this is all worked out, but we can agree that minority rights, especially in some areas, are critical, and work until we find decision-making methods that are effective.

    Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. - JM Keynes

    by goinsouth on Sun Aug 22, 2010 at 09:41:31 AM PDT

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    •  Worker governance (1+ / 0-)
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      Yes, I think this may well explain the dramatic progress made in China.  Although it is in many ways a totalitarian state, particularly viewed through the lens of a capitalist media, corporations in China are often owned by the workers themselves.  The quiet evolution of the emergence of the power of this concept has driven much cultural and political progress there.  Although I know little of China, it appears to me that much has changed since the days of Mao and the cultural revolution.

      The manifestations of our own cultural revolution are playing out in surprisingly parallel ways.  Although appeals to fear and suppression of minority viewpoints are still an active component of political discourse in both countries, the effectiveness of such approaches are waning.  While this may seem contradictory in the current political climate, the republicans and right-wingers are setting themselves up for mind-boggling failure when they finally do take control of government.  This is so because they will have made it nearly impossible to govern, except by force and coercion, which will not prove either popular or effective.  The only thing contemporary republicans seem to agree on is the need to dismantle American government at no expense to themselves.  This will hardly be a foundation for governing, but rather a prescriptions for a re-run of the Bush presidency and even the daft have some sense of what that brought America.

      Ironically, this is what has damaged the Obama presidency, albeit for different reasons.  It simply failed to live up to its rhetoric.  When first taking office it abandoned the goal of dramatic and effective change in an effort to achieve the utopian concept of political consensus and near-term economic stability instead.

      Although contemporary myth as to why GM failed was because the union pensions dragged them down, the reality is a much more complicated mixture of executive incompetence and a failure of labor to demand a more and more assertive role in management of the company at the decision making level of the board and more shares of stock for workers, so that workers had incentives beyond better benefits and bigger salaries.  Had they done this instead, the Ruppert Murdoch's of the world would have been forced to listen to their political views if they wanted their advertising dollars.

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