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    And by "faith" I do not necessarily mean religious faith. I mean any adherence to a system that depends on an a priori conception of the world, whose adherents suspect or fear or even know that it will not withstand close examination.

    We might call that bigotry or bias.  But what you're doing is dismissing viewpoints on the ground the adherents know the views can't stand up to examination....which strikes me as circular.  They aren't professing things "We don't care if it's true or not".  They think it's backed up.  But you've decided, a priori, it's not.

    Someone on daily kos called me a poopyhead. My life is SO like Nelson Mandela's.

    by Inland on Sun Aug 22, 2010 at 10:59:02 AM PDT

    •  Backed up? By what? (3+ / 0-)

      If I understand your comment, you are claiming that the adherents of (e.g.) supply-side economics think/believe it is 'backed up'.

      But it is only 'backed up' by more faith-based arguments. No serious analysis of supply-side could pretend to show it does the things that fanatics say it does.

      So they pretend that Ronald Reagan cut spending, or that cutting taxes generated more revenue -- but we can't see it because the Democrats increased spending [blablabla].

      They're 'backed up' is just another layer of delusion.

      Unless you don't believe there is truth or facts. These people are entitled to their opinion; they're not entitled to their own facts.

    •  Not quite (4+ / 0-)

      I am dismissing viewpoints whose adherents refuse to let them be examined. Sharron Angle runs from the press - unless they only ask the questions she feels like answering. More and more GOP candidates and "leaders" will only submit to softball interviews. The Prop 8 backers insist that evidence, and for that matter, the whole trial, were unnecessary. The Republican party refuses to release its agenda.

      And so on.

      It is not within the powers of the government to help its citizens get into heaven, nor to save them from hell.

      by DanK Is Back on Sun Aug 22, 2010 at 11:13:09 AM PDT

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      •  This started a long time ago (0+ / 0-)

        but one of the most recent iterations was Dubya and his "handlers." He wouldn't answer questions that weren't pre-screened for ideological cleanliness - wouldn't even put himself in that position. I remember seeing a headline once saying "Bush will answer reporter questions in open session," and thinking "Wow, he's going to actually allow them to ask questions?"

        There is an art to teaching that is independent of the subject matter. - daveinojai

        by Killer of Sacred Cows on Sun Aug 22, 2010 at 02:03:08 PM PDT

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