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  •  Why do you want to call (1+ / 0-)
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    it a "disorder?" Looks to me to be a sub of personality testing. It's not like these are actual phobias, it's just different people's approach to the world.

    Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

    by Joieau on Fri Aug 27, 2010 at 08:08:33 AM PDT

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    •  Interesting point I hadn't picked up on. (1+ / 0-)
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      The Diary, in part, was intended to show that one group contained more fearful people; and that was as a direct result of something beyond their control. It was just the way they were born. It's physiology, not a "psychological disorder".

      It's no more a "disorder" than saying ginger people have a disorder because they avoid the sun... because they were born with red hair and freckles.

      So yes, it does tell us something about the mind-set of someone who is easily offended that thinks they're under attack. Paint the issue in complete black-and-white terms. It's not a plus, so it must be the most heinous of minuses. And both sides have it, so vote Republican.

      Interesting. Thanks for picking up on it.

      The nation can be made to produce a far higher standard of living for the masses of the people if only government is intelligent and energetic... (FDR, '37)

      by ShawnGBR on Fri Aug 27, 2010 at 08:26:49 AM PDT

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      •  There are more than a handful (1+ / 0-)
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        of fearful, grossly oversensitive people right here on DKos lately, doing their damndest to depress votes by telling those who criticize Obama/Dem policies or performance they need to STFU, leave the country, or vote Republican. As a lifelong Democrat who has seen some nasty, 'scary' shit from the political arena going all the way back to 1963, I would never have attempted to characterize the left as "fearful." They sure as hell weren't "fearful" in Chicago in 1968!

        So by putting a little of this psychological profiling to work right here on DKos, what does it tell us about the roving gangs of "Love It or Leave It" fear-mongers as we approach mid-terms? [caveat: I've already reached some conclusions about that, I just wish it would become more obvious to others still wondering why there's so much pearl-clutching, couch-fainting and STFU'ing going on...]

        Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

        by Joieau on Fri Aug 27, 2010 at 08:57:42 AM PDT

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        •  The beauty of the Internet... (0+ / 0-)

          ...is you can be the kind of person that IRL makes Dick Cheney look like Ryan Seacrest -- but post a few DK diaries pretending to be a Liberal and some people will believe it. Which is useful for the actual cause when they start saying "I'm not voting on Tuesday, Obama didn't do X or Y or Z" and people take it at face value.

          The current vernacular for this is Concern Trolling.

          By the way: I'm astronaut Mike Dexter.

          The nation can be made to produce a far higher standard of living for the masses of the people if only government is intelligent and energetic... (FDR, '37)

          by ShawnGBR on Fri Aug 27, 2010 at 09:07:38 PM PDT

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      •  I'm a Mom (and Grandma). (1+ / 0-)
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        Birthed a couple, adopted a few, raised many more other people's 'throw-aways'. Kids are indeed born with certain personality traits, there are many to choose from. Other traits (and psychopathologies) can be imposed or acquired.

        Of my two, my son was a cautious, careful type guy, very sensitive and shy. Didn't quickly go for new things, liked to dress well, wasn't eager to date or drive when most kids were, etc. We called him our "Token Conservative." He died young (21), one of those accidents he was always so careful to avoid. For all the good it did him.

        Daughter was gung-ho from day one. Quick-minded, courageous to a fault, a natural leader, definitely a daredevil - her teenage years were parental hell. She's still with us in her 40s and going strong in spite of herself.

        Different people with different, unique natures from the first, nothing wrong with that. Humans come in a variety of styles, this does not render anyone's nature 'wrong'. But it's absolutely no surprise that mighty 'science' has documented what Moms and other caregivers have long known. The difference between conservative and liberal - in politics, in church or anywhere else - reflects different personalities, approaches to and understandings of the world we live in. This is why self-invested positions are so resistant to change.

        Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

        by Joieau on Fri Aug 27, 2010 at 04:16:37 PM PDT

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    •  Correct (2+ / 0-)
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      The studies are dealing with normal variation in temperament, particularly in the area of how secure people feel. As another example, studies of people who believe they were abducted by aliens show that they have no more psychopathology than the general public, but they do tend to have certain personality traits, such as being prone to fantasizing.

      The schools will probably teach kindergartners to play nice with everyone. — Will Phillips, on how marriage equality would affect education

      by ebohlman on Fri Aug 27, 2010 at 11:56:43 AM PDT

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      •  Well, I'd suspect (1+ / 0-)
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        that believing your fantasies are real suggests some psychopathology afoot. May not present much of an issue in people's ability to do housework or alphabetize file folders, etc., and may not present a notable danger to self or others. But when I fantasize about playing disc golf on Mars or serving 'mater pie to the Queen, they're not things I'd assert under oath, swear to friends and family really happened, or volunteer to take a lie detector test about... ;-)

        Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

        by Joieau on Fri Aug 27, 2010 at 12:24:26 PM PDT

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