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    Try and wrap your mind around half a billion people homeless and almost a billion without [...]

    Pakistan's total population is about 171 million. It's hard to wrap my mind around an exaggeration that's at least 10-20x too big. The situation is dire and needful of help enough without blowing it out of proportion and destroying your credibility.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 07:07:40 AM PDT

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    •  Maybe the flooding isn't limited to Pakistan (0+ / 0-)

      I'm thinking China, Tajikistan, Waziristan, Kashmir, Jumma, India, Pakistan and especially the province of Baluchistan west of the Indus are affected.

      the Asian Development Bank said. The flooding left more than 4 million people homeless and some 8 million in urgent need of humanitarian aid

      The summer of 2010 produced Pakistan's worst flooding in 80 years (more on Pakistan's 2010 floods here). ... Flooding began on July 22 in the province of Baluchistan. ... and areas like the Swat Valley and South Waziristan from the militants. ..... No Easy Path for India to Resolve Frozen Conflict in Kashmir ...

      Aug 19, 2010 ... India-Pakistan relations have been rocky since the November 2008 Mumbai ... flat Indus plain in east; mountains in north and northwest; Balochistan plateau in west ... flooding along the Indus after heavy rains (July and August) ..... of China (Aksai Chin), India (Jammu and Kashmir), and Pakistan ...

      Pakistan: Floods posing worst threat to Jacobabad Rivers Sindh and Kabul still . .... provinces of Pakistan: azad jammu and kashmir. balochistan

      flat Indus plain in east; mountains in north and northwest; Balochistan plateau in west ... and west; flooding along the Indus after heavy rains (July and August) ..... of China (Aksai Chin), India (Jammu and Kashmir), and Pakistan (Azad ...

      Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

      by rktect on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 12:24:47 PM PDT

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      •  You're Just Wrong (0+ / 0-)

        Even adding up all the people in Asia hit by this flooding doesn't give

        half a billion people homeless and almost a billion without food and water, their crops, businesses, jobs, infrastructure, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, and families destroyed.

        You weren't talking about the number of people whose wheat costs will go up. You were talking about dead.

        You exaggerated, by orders of magnitude even considering all countries. You just doubly undercut your credibility trying to spin your way out of it.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 01:29:59 PM PDT

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        •  I was talking about homeless and hungry (0+ / 0-)

          There are many reports of millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people being affected, going hungry and homeless. You are right that the death toll so far is lower, reported in the thousands; but with crops destroyed and water supplies polluted and no infrastructure left intact; people thirsty and forced to drink contaminated water the death toll will go up.

          half a billion people homeless and almost a billion without food and water, their crops, businesses, jobs, infrastructure, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, and families destroyed.

          From what I'm reading its every city and village in the Himilayan watershed; Not just Pakistan and the Indus but India, China, Nepal, Bangaladesh and up in Kashmir, Jumma, Wajiristan, Tajikistan as I said, going back as far as may in China.

          Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

          by rktect on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 03:11:05 PM PDT

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    •  In China flooding began in May (0+ / 0-)

      With drinking water polluted, 24 million acres of crops innundated and destroyed, and dozens of rivers remaining in flood the situation extends beyond the borders of Pakistan.

      More than 305 million people[17] in 28 provinces, municipalities and regions[1][3][10], especially the southern and central provinces and regions of Zhejiang, Fujian, Jiangxi, Hubei, Hunan, Guangdong, Guangxi, Chongqing Municipality, Gansu, Sichuan and Guizhou, and the northeastern province of Jilin have been affected

      I'm not sure anyone knows how many people are affected. The flooding in one city in India left millions homeless and apparently the river flooding
      covers 28 provinces in China let alone India and Pakistan.

      Rescue workers used sandbags to stop a raging river from breaching its embankment near a southern Indian city on Monday as floods triggered by heavy rains over the last week left 2.5 million people homeless.

      In China there are 1,339,210,000 people who may be peripherally affected by the widespread loss of the farmland and crops that feed them. In India there are another 1,187,000,000 who may be similarly affected. Even if all the damage initially is to peoples food, water, habitation and infrastructure, before long you begin to have the specter of widespread epidemic disease.

      Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

      by rktect on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 12:43:57 PM PDT

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    •  All of South Asia is experiencing flooding (0+ / 0-)

      Some claim its because climate change and global warming have caused the Himalayan glaciers to melt and that the flooding will likely be followed by equally devastating cyclones and then drought.

      If you take the aggregate of all the separate reports the flooding which extends as far away as the Philippines which has been hit with devastating floods for the second year in a row is affecting a very large number of people.

      Almost 20 million people have been displaced as some of the worst floods for years have hit a wide swathe of northern India, Bangladesh and Nepal.
      Roads have been washed away and hundreds of villages have been cut off by swollen rivers.

      A BBC correspondent in the Indian state of Assam says the air force is organising food drops, but they are nowhere near enough.

      In some areas, the floods are being called the worst in living memory.  

      Monsoon winds blow north-easterly for one half of the year, and from the south-west for the other half
      South-westerly winds bring the heavy rains from June to Sept Winds arrive in southern India six weeks before the north west. Annual rainfall varies considerably

      The bulk of the rain is now expected in central India, a region which has so far received a weaker monsoon. Already parts of the state of Maharashtra are waterlogged.

      In Assam, in north-eastern India, three feet of rain fell in July.

      People in the state have clashed with police in their desperation for food, shelter and medicine.

      In Uttar Pradesh the army was called in to evacuate 500 villages.

      The two worst affected districts are reported to be Gorakhpur and Kushinagar, although water levels in major rivers there are reported to have stopped rising for the moment.

      At least 121 relief camps and 34 cattle camps have been set up in the flood-affected areas of Bihar.

      Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

      by rktect on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 01:01:38 PM PDT

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