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  •  I hear what you are saying. (6+ / 0-)

    Spiritual beliefs and religion seem to be a big part of being human, though.  

    I am far more sympathetic to religion and religious beliefs than I have been most of my life.

    For every Pat Robertson, there is a MLK, Jr., or Phillip Berigan.  

    Pooties and Woozles unite; you have nothing to lose but your leashes!

    by TomP on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 11:55:51 AM PDT

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    •  I hope that's true (3+ / 0-)
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      It just seems like the Robertsons and Dobsons make better copy for the corporatists.
      Look at Robertson, or Dobson, vs. MLK or Berigan.
      Whose agenda is more likely to coopt someone to vote against their own interests?
      See, they get bitter...and they cling......
      Poor Obama. I've never seen someone get so lambasted for saying something so off-the cuff that was so absolutely fucking correct.
      They cling to the things that they know will never be taken from them.
      Not by John Mccain, Barack Obama, or anyone else.

      Tax the rich, feed the poor, until there are no rich no more.

      by kestrel9000 on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 12:00:39 PM PDT

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    •  I Would Say For Every (4+ / 0-)

      Thousand Pat Robertsons, there is an MLK Jr or a Phillip Berigan, and I would further say that the reason MLK Jr et. al. come to mind is that they rose and objected to the mainstream evil that was being committed in the name of their religion i.e., that was the problem in the first place.

      The reason this article exists for you to like it in the first place is that Christianity and Islam exist as "enemy religions" and someone can come forth and say, "No, they're not enemies, we should love them."

      If people were occasionally declaring war, committing mass murder, and denying others their constitutional rights over which NFL Football team they liked the best, there would be no substantive difference in the discussion.  But people don't do that.

      As you say yourself, I respect your difference opinion.

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