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  •  It's the light at the end of the tunnel. (6+ / 0-)

    True, the train hasn't hit us yet.

    But to mix a metaphor, the writing is on the wall.

    •  We'll see, won't we... (0+ / 0-)

      and when no SS cuts pass congress, this group will find another reason to claim Obama is a sellout and government never works. Disgusting.

      Slavery is the legal fiction that a person is property. Corporate personhood is the legal fiction that property is a person. -Jan Edwards

      by SoCalSal on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 07:26:24 PM PDT

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      •  History is our guide. (2+ / 0-)
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        We saw what happened with health care reform. We saw what happened to investigating past abuses in government. We saw that the administration had the back of a very anti-Social Security person it appointed to a commission stacked with people against Social Security.

        Yes, there's always a chance the administration will surprise us with the end-game of 11-dimensional chess.

        With a stroke of a pen Obama can fire Simpson. He doesn't need the Senate or House. He could just do it.

        •  Simpson.. (0+ / 0-)

          I think Simpson was a poor choice for cochairman. I don't care whether or not he's fired for foot-in-mouth and an angry email because I see examples of that every day, especially on DKos. Not something I'll get passionate about. All the "fire him" campaigns turn me off and I suspect that all those who jump on those bandwagons have never held a managerial position. And if they have, I would not want to work with or for them.

          I consider the health care reform a decent start towards preventing egregious insurance practices and regulating health insurance, opening the possibility for a decent health care system that will one day be affordable with universal coverage. That it passed says it was the best possible for the time.

          Some of the legal eagles that I've read say that prosecuting the Bush/Cheney war criminals would be long, ugly, and difficult to prove. I'm not much interested; recriminations don't rock my boat. The nation is polarized enough as it is.

          So much for near history; we view it differently.

          Slavery is the legal fiction that a person is property. Corporate personhood is the legal fiction that property is a person. -Jan Edwards

          by SoCalSal on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 08:00:21 PM PDT

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      •  The cuts may not pass Congress (2+ / 0-)
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        Indeed, that's our only real hope at this point. Anyone who thinks that the commission won't recommend cuts or that President ("we're out of money") Obama will denounce it if it does, is indulging in a large amount of wishful thinking.

        "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

        by Demi Moaned on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 07:42:44 PM PDT

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        •  and I suggest that those who wail about (0+ / 0-)

          SS benefit cuts because of the anticipated commission recommendations are gullible to blogs that cite "unnamed sources" without context, and don't do their own research or thinking.

          Slavery is the legal fiction that a person is property. Corporate personhood is the legal fiction that property is a person. -Jan Edwards

          by SoCalSal on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 08:37:20 PM PDT

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        •  "May" is the operative word here. (0+ / 0-)

          The hungry judges soon the sentence sign, And wretches hang, that jurymen may dine.

          by magnetics on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 11:29:41 PM PDT

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      •  Are you willing to accept tjhe other proposition? (0+ / 0-)

        Will you admit that Obama sold us out with this commission if benefits are reduced in any way for working and middle-class taxpayers, or if they increase the retirement age at all?

        Or will you be like a number of sell-outs here here who thank Obama for his great leadership in the health care insurance reform debate, and how he got us the public option mandate he promised us?

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