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  •  Most cyclists are drivers, too... (2+ / 0-)
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    luckydog, Deathtongue

    ... must most adult drivers have never cycled in traffic.

    Funny, here in St. Pete, Florida, the commuters are fine (there are very, very few bicycle messengers), but the roadies are a pain in the next (says a road with extensive racing background...)

    In other cities I've lived -- Boston, Philly, Columbus -- it's as you describe.  When did intentionally pissing people off become part of messenger culture?

    "There is nothing impossible to him who will try." -Alexander the Great

    by The Octopus on Fri Sep 10, 2010 at 10:37:16 PM PDT

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    •  is that true? because sometimes it seems (2+ / 0-)
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      DontTaseMeBro, The Octopus

      that folks on bikes around here (Boston) do not know two important things that every driver does know:

      1. a car has a blind spot.  if you ride in it, you cannot be seen.
      1. at night you need a BRIGHT headlight--one that can be seen from at least a half a block away.

      i can't tell you how many times I have been waiting to make a right turn at night, checked my passenger side mirror at night to see if a bike was coming, not seen anything, and started my right turn only to suddenly discover a rider on a bike with no headlight appearing in my passenger window or slapping my right rear fender screaming at me.

      why they ignore my turn signal (i'm obsessive about using them) I have no idea.

      no amount of telling them that a reflector is not good enough and they need an actual LIGHT ends the argument.

      but if you have never driven a car at night you have no idea of how hard it is to see a person behind you on a bike with no light, unless cars are going in the opposite direction to shine off the reflector.  after you get about half a block away they are pretty much invisible.  especially when they are wearing dark clothes.  I am old enough to remember when cyclists were encouraged to wear light colored clothes when biking at night.  whatever happened to that?

      i know this diary is to air grievances against drivers, but if you would encourage your fellow cyclists to get bright flashing white headlights for riding on residential streets at night, I personally would breathe a sigh of relief.

      bikes are green and good exercise and yes there are a lot of bike commuters who do follow traffic rules.  i want to encourage more biking, and when Boston starts having bike-sharing next year I'll be on a bike myself for short trips more often.

      "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
      I don't want to take my country back. I want to take my country FORWARD.

      by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Sep 11, 2010 at 05:36:07 AM PDT

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      •  Good points. (1+ / 0-)
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        (1)  A cyclist who overtakes a driver on the right is just asking to get killed.  It's not a good idea.  You're asking for the right hook.  The cyclist should either slow and maintain his or her position on the road relative to the car, or the cyclist should overtake on the left.

        (2)  Lights.  Everything you say is spot-on.  The brighter, the better.  It's illegal to ride without a solid (not flashing!) white front and rear red light.  I have a 12-watt HID front light that cost $600.  It's tough not to see me at night.

        The problems with flashing lights (other than likely being illegal) are that the cyclist cannot see well by them and motorists (and others) struggle to judge the distance to the flashing light accurately.  And drunks tend to gravitate toward them.  Many a police officer has been killed due to a drunk driver plowing into the parked squad car on the side of the road with the flashers going.

        "There is nothing impossible to him who will try." -Alexander the Great

        by The Octopus on Sat Sep 11, 2010 at 07:45:23 AM PDT

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        •  tx 4 the clarification about the flashing light (1+ / 0-)
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          The Octopus

          your explanation makes sense.

          "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
          I don't want to take my country back. I want to take my country FORWARD.

          by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Sep 11, 2010 at 10:11:11 AM PDT

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