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  •  Whoops! (0+ / 0-)

    Ok, let's try it again with the links:

    Sanders Bill

    Whitehouse Bill

    Your new addiction:

    by Zach in Phoenix on Sat Sep 11, 2010 at 03:35:15 PM PDT

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    •  Now for the rest of the story. (1+ / 0-)
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      The House passed a bill H.R. 627, (Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights Act of 2009 ) which then went to the Senate and passed.

      As you can see both Cantwell and Murray voted yea on the bill. And as far as I know it's now law.

      As you can see from the rollcall above it was on an amendment to that same bill. Now I can probably guess why people didn't vote for the amendments but I don't know for sure. What I do know for sure is that I'm not going to second guess my Senator.

      It's so easy to look at something like this without looking at the history and make up your mind about something. But for pete's sake we have all the info at our go look.

      And here's a link to a decent article on the bill.

      •  You are not citing (0+ / 0-)

        either of the two votes over whether/how to ban usury. That is what I cited; that is one of the issues that I have highlited this afternoon.

        Again, as I spelled out above, the Sanders Bill would have capped interest rates at roughly 14%.

        Murray voted against it.

        The bill by Sheldon Whitehouse was a compromise bill that would have enabled each state to set its own cap on credit cards rates.

        Murray voted against the compromise bill as well.

        What you cited was a bill that also talks about credit cards, but that is where the similarity ends. An analagous example would be if I were to talk about a bill regarding light rail funding, and you would respond by talking about light rail safety. Same general topic of light rail, but I'm not sure what light rail safety would have to to with light rail funding.

        I would also have to disagree with your statement that

        What I do know for sure is that I'm not going to second guess my Senator.

        Kewalo, that's your job. It is our obligation as citizens to try and stay informed, and to make sure our politicians are representing us. Hey, it's tough to stay on top of all this, isn't it?! I know it is a challenge I face as well, so I can commisserate with you.

        But that is one of the obligations that goes with democracy, and the whole point of our discussion this afternoon. We should know who we're voting for, and hold them accountable. And we're not doing that when A) we don't know how they voted, or B) we're not pushing them to clearly define their positions on the issues. Instead, we often base our vote on a brand that may or may not be accurate, or in reaction to whatever we consider to be the "out group".

        I believe my point has been amply proved by many of the comments on this thread.

        Thanks for the exchange this afternoon! Have a great weekend.

        Your new addiction:

        by Zach in Phoenix on Sat Sep 11, 2010 at 08:48:29 PM PDT

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