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  •  I guess that's why I responded to your post. (4.00)
    It's not about whether I agree with you.

    It's about whether someone who is basing their characterization on their own experience can speak for a great many group of people beyond that experience.

    By the way, Democrats have not accomplished much ("walked the walk") since 1994. There's a reason for that. They've been effectively neutered. They are no longer the majority party, so I'm not sure they can do anything but talk anymore.

    When the chips were down, however, Kerry is one of the few politicans who has always been bold. When he could do something, he did it.

    "If cows and horses had hands, they would depict their gods as cows and horses." Xenophanes

    by upstate NY on Fri Feb 04, 2005 at 12:59:35 PM PST

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    •  Fact v. fiction (none)
      My own experience with people who told me they held their nose and voted for Kerry or Bush?  Yes, I can report what they've told me.

      Why do you think the democrats haven't accomplished much?  Could it be that they haven't walked the walk? That is the perception of the democratic party, they don't stand for anything.  So having candidates that don't walk the walk IS a big deal.

      Give me one example of anyone with political experience who would call Kerry's campaign "bold".  If anything, Kerry played it far too safe when BushCo. was willing to go balls to the wall.

      •  I said Kerry was bold when he had to be (none)
        in the Senate. When the chips were down and he could get something accomplished, he did it.

        Again, I wrote to you why the Dems haven't accomplished much, so I'm unsure why you asked the question again.

        Kerry gave the answers he believed in on Iraq. In any other time (pre-911) his plans would have been very bold. Maybe you're not aware of this, but John Kerry is the first Democratic candidate for President since McGovern to explicitly call for a tax raise.

        You don't think that's bold?

        National health care?

        He had some bold policies that were conveniently overlooked by just about everyone.

        He went far beyond Clinton in terms of his vision for the future of the country.

        "If cows and horses had hands, they would depict their gods as cows and horses." Xenophanes

        by upstate NY on Fri Feb 04, 2005 at 01:29:43 PM PST

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        •  The time for bold (none)
          was during "the most important election in our lifetimes."  To quote Senator Kerry.
        •  Mondale (none)
          is at least one exception to your claim that no Democrat since McGovern called for a tax increase in the campaign.  In the 1984 campaign, as I recall, Fritz said either of 'em would have to raise taxes and the difference is "he [Reagan] won't tell you so.  I will."  The statement has been used as a classic example of what NOT to say in a campaign.  (Pity; honesty gets no respect.)  What's really ironic is that Mondale couldn't even imagine that Reagan would be asinine enough NOT to raise taxes.  Instead, he cut 'em! And the economic tailspin is history... thank God George Bush I had the nerve to increase taxes, though it probably cost him re-election, and that Clinton and the Democrats raised them again.

          Also, as I recall, Kerry campaigned against Dean in the primary by telling people Dean would raise their taxes.  (Dean intended to return to the Clinton tax structure because it worked; Kerry said he'd only raise taxes on those making over $200,000.) I believe it was at this point that Dean said Kerry was campaigning "like a Republican."

      •  You are right (none)
        I was at the Convention...Kerry was tolerated

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