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  •  Trickle UP (8+ / 0-)

    Its the only thing that will work.

    Give the hundreds of billions of dollars directly to people and it will filter back into the system beautifully.

    Capitalism won't be hurt, the wealthy will still make gargantuan profits.

    But, if it makes commoner's lives better, they are against it.

    Bad form.

    Spray tons of carcinogens into the ocean to hide petroleum spewed from a hastily-drilled hole from a greedy corporation, but don't smoke pot.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 06:47:25 AM PDT

    •  Tax free weekends until Xmas (0+ / 0-)

      would be a simple way to increase consumer spending.

      Spray tons of carcinogens into the ocean to hide petroleum spewed from a hastily-drilled hole from a greedy corporation, but don't smoke pot.

      by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 06:49:39 AM PDT

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      •  Not really (2+ / 0-)
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        Odysseus, drewfromct

        not having to pay 7% sales tax hurts the state, and besides - if you don't have the $100 to spend, not having to pay $7 sales tax isn't much of an incentive.

      •  Only if the tax holiday (0+ / 0-)

        is restricted to gods that were Made In America. And good luck finding any. But a tax holiday on retail goods that were all imported from China does very little to create any jobs, except for a few more Wal Mart greeters.

        We need a Green WPA, and we need to levy punitive tariffs on goods and services imported from nations which manipulate their currency, disrespect or ignore human rights, and refuse to meet our standards for the protection of workers, consumers, and the environment. We need to shred the uneven and unfair "free" trade treaties such as NAFTA, CAFTA, and the WTO. We need to stop running in the Race To The Bottom.

        Al Qeada is a faith-based initiative.

        by drewfromct on Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 08:16:39 AM PDT

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    •  People with hope for the future (0+ / 0-)

      have this nasty habit of standing up to bullies.  How are they going to get us all to accept the idea that Third World Status is inevitable?  That we should kiss the toes of the UberRich for allowing us to live at any level whatsoever?  

      •  The rich should be scared of us (1+ / 0-)
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        Thanks to the PATRIOT Act, they won't have to be.

        Can't organize any serious resistance to these robber barons.

        Petitions ain't going to cut it.

        Spray tons of carcinogens into the ocean to hide petroleum spewed from a hastily-drilled hole from a greedy corporation, but don't smoke pot.

        by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 07:10:21 AM PDT

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        •  So what do you think's going to happen, doc? (1+ / 0-)
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          Are we really doomed to go through another reign of Greed and watch this country fall to "failed" status?  Do we really have to hit bottom before the people who've bought into this crap suddenly wake up and say, "Hey.  Wait a minute"?  
          Sometimes it's hard not to despair, isn't it?  Yes, we've been here before, in deep trouble, and come back out again.  But as you point out, with things like the Patriot Act, I have to wonder if they've ever had their hooks this deep in our flesh before.  

          •  I think there is TOO MUCH money (2+ / 0-)
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            and therefore power concentrated into the hands of a very few who appear to be in ideological lock-step. None are liberals. It's all robber barons and their pet government agencies and congresspeople.

            We have been conditioned to not make suggestions of violence, but this situation isn't going to be chnaged by petitions and "please and thank you".

            The PATRIOT act will be used against those who might seek to do something effective: they'll be called terrorists and smeared in the conservative media.

            I think they have completely taken over, we're their cattle and we're highly replenishable so none of us really matter.

            I also think they want to wipe out 3/4 the human population because they are unneeded.

            Spray tons of carcinogens into the ocean to hide petroleum spewed from a hastily-drilled hole from a greedy corporation, but don't smoke pot.

            by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 07:49:44 AM PDT

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            •  Some of us are going to be unruly cattle. (1+ / 0-)
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              We might do things like barter with each other, figure out ways to power our homes with solar power.  What if we just refused to play?  I hear Wall Street's noticed a lot of us are pulling our money out, and now they're becoming alarmed.

              •  If I had money, I'd pull it out just to hurt them (2+ / 0-)
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                Brooke In Seattle, sherlyle

                but I'm lucky to have a home and live indoors.

                I get very agitated hearing about those rich fucks who make millions of dollars a year not being much brighter than me.

                I have spent my life working with the poor, like an idiot.

                All along I should have been positioning myself to cater to the rich. THAT'S where the money is.

                I still like the feeling of "helping the poor".

                Doesn't pay the bills but I feel like I'm doing the right thing.

                Spray tons of carcinogens into the ocean to hide petroleum spewed from a hastily-drilled hole from a greedy corporation, but don't smoke pot.

                by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 07:57:02 AM PDT

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                •  You ARE doing the right thing, and that still (0+ / 0-)

                  counts for everything, doc.  You feed not only your own soul, but ours too.  As long as one person, just one, is still out there in service to doing what's right, there's still hope.  

      •  It's easy (1+ / 0-)
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        sherlyle

        How are they going to get us all to accept the idea that Third World Status is inevitable?  That we should kiss the toes of the UberRich for allowing us to live at any level whatsoever?

        And they've already done it: They managed long ago to convince all the "Reagan Democrats" that each and every one of them has an equal shot at making it to the top, and the suckers ate it up with spoons. The New Peasantry loves the New Feudalism because they've been duped into believing that they deserve to be included in the New Aristocracy, and that they'll have their chance soon enough. They've also been duped into thinking that a crowd composed of gamblers and heirs deserves their wealth because they "created it" when in fact the truth could not be more to the contrary.

        Al Qeada is a faith-based initiative.

        by drewfromct on Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 08:21:50 AM PDT

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