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  •  Sure thing (8+ / 0-)

    (Now, everyone else, I know this guy's probably a troll and may not be asking the question in good faith, but I'll answer it anyway.)

    First, there is the bullshit that civil unions and such generally do provide equal letter of the law rights. You here this in California, all the time.  But:

    ...puts the lie to it.

    But more importantly, there's the pernicious social stigma effects. Singling out gays and lesbians as second-class (and make no mistake, if the president gets to pick his label, but the poster's son doesn't, the poster doesn't have the same rights right there) has a demonstrated, documented by actual science cost in terms of the psychological and physical health of LGBT folk, e.g., Francis and Mialon's work.

    For further exploration of these topics, I turn you to the Perry transcript.

    •  apologies for here/hear typo, etc. (2+ / 0-)
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      tnichlsn, cloudbustingkid

      (I know the difference, but my fingers don't always.  ;-) )

    •  Thanks for the link (1+ / 0-)
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      And no, I'm neither a troll nor a "guy." But we can disagreements on policy issues without the personal attacks.

      •  I'm sorry, but.. (0+ / 0-)

        The actual content of your posts makes it very difficult to take your opinions as one of "policy" rather than human rights, and read as quite bigoted. I found them offensive, but I'm willing to accept that that offense might have been due to ignorance rather than malice. I apologize for the mischaracterization.

        To make this point, "we shouldn't let African-Americans use the word marriage for their own relationships" out in a separate post here and see how many hide rates you attract.  (or substitute "Catholics", if you prefer.)

        General Rule: Whenever you ask someone to defend why they need their basic human rights respected, you are, in part, insulting them.

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