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  •  exceot (0+ / 0-)

    If A supports Israel (Z), then A is a Zionist (P)

    i don't think this is true. i'm sure there are people who support israel as a nation of equal rights for all citizens. and there are plenty of israelis and jews who are not zionists therefore if israel is a state for all jews that would obviously include the non zionists.

    "As Israel treats Jerusalem, so shall the world treat Israel. As Jerusalem goes, so goes Israel." - B. Burston/Ha'aretz

    by zannie on Fri Sep 17, 2010 at 05:48:38 PM PDT

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    •  No...I knew that would come up (2+ / 0-)
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      Israel is a concept not just a state name. Israel is the concept of a Jewish Homeland embodied in the nation known as Israel. Let's please drop the game where a One State could be called Israel. It is a false game. Israel as he means it and as the Israelis themselves mean it is as the National Homeland of and by the Jewish People.

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      by volleyboy1 on Fri Sep 17, 2010 at 05:51:39 PM PDT

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      •  so for all intents and purposes around here (1+ / 0-)
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        when we say israel were talking about a concept? i thought we were referencing the county.

        "As Israel treats Jerusalem, so shall the world treat Israel. As Jerusalem goes, so goes Israel." - B. Burston/Ha'aretz

        by zannie on Fri Sep 17, 2010 at 05:54:48 PM PDT

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      •  right (0+ / 0-)

        and i see no reason why it can't continue to be one no matter who else resides their. i share my homeland w/others, it doesn't make it less mine. america is also the homeland of native americans and it's your homeland too.

        "As Israel treats Jerusalem, so shall the world treat Israel. As Jerusalem goes, so goes Israel." - B. Burston/Ha'aretz

        by zannie on Fri Sep 17, 2010 at 06:03:10 PM PDT

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        •  But the history of Jews in the world is different (2+ / 0-)
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          AND Israel was NOT formed as the U.S. of Israel. How are you not getting that?

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          by volleyboy1 on Fri Sep 17, 2010 at 06:05:02 PM PDT

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          •  well, (1+ / 0-)
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            i didn't say it was a united states. but a united state doesn't sound so bad. we're always hearing about a united jerusalem. here's the thing volley, it's israel that keeps expanding and doesn't want to share. i'm just being open to what appears to becoming the inevitable and i'm open also. i don't think it's me you have to concern yourself with i think it's the settlers and those people whose concept of israel is on a more expansive region.

            the history of Jews in the world is different

            everybody's different but luckily we have international laws and when the state of israel was founded ethnically cleansing the palestinian population wasn't part of the agreement. i don't care how different people are we have international standards and israel is part of the global community. i'm open to israel being a nice place, it just isn't yet. i'm not sure how negotiating w/people who don't represent the palestinian people is going to bring about peace but like i said, i'm open.

            "As Israel treats Jerusalem, so shall the world treat Israel. As Jerusalem goes, so goes Israel." - B. Burston/Ha'aretz

            by zannie on Fri Sep 17, 2010 at 07:37:19 PM PDT

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      •  Nahchon n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        Please be advised: The contents of this comment are merely my opinion.

        by Mets102 on Sat Sep 18, 2010 at 05:19:57 PM PDT

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