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  •  Same thing elsewhere. (4+ / 0-)

    Obama Liability in Senate Battlegrounds:

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....

    Like in PA, where I continue to get this pushback when knocking on doors.

    The biggest key to the race is probably Obama's considerably fallen popularity. His approval rating stands at only 40% with 55% of voters disapproving of him, one of the biggest declines from 2008 performance we've seen for him anywhere in the country. Part of Obama's low numbers is a reflection of the Republican trending voter pool in the state this year, but there are also more people who voted for Obama but disapprove of him now in Pennsylvania than there are most places. Our national poll last week found only 7% of Obama voters are now unhappy with the job he's doing but in Pennsylvania the figure is 15%. Toomey has a 14 point lead with those disaffected Obama voters, showing the extent to which those voters moving away from Obama are moving away from the Democratic Party in general.

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....

    But really, it's all a result of dissatisfied bloggers expressing dissatisfaction...

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    by SJerseyIndy on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:52:31 AM PDT

    •  How much has the media (16+ / 0-)

      contributed to Obama's lost in popularity becasue that is all they talk about. His approval is the same as Reagan and all I heard during Reagan's term was how popular he was...the press never mentioned Bush's rating that I can remember.

      Vote 11.2.10 the penalty for refusing to participate in politics you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato

      by coffejoe on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:54:38 AM PDT

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    •  Don't blame Obama for Feingold having crap (10+ / 0-)

      approval from the base. Perhaps Feingold should have spent more time appealing to the base and less time investigating Obama's czars, voting against financial reform and trying to woo teabaggers.

      •  The numbers are clear. (3+ / 0-)

        And, as mentioned, it's not just Feingold.

        You'll begin to notice a pattern. That is, if you're not in denial.

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        by SJerseyIndy on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:28:48 AM PDT

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      •  This is for you... (4+ / 0-)

        because it would seem you're too lazy to click with your finger:

        It's just the most dramatic example of something plaguing Democratic candidates in all of this year's most competitive Senate races though. Currently Nate Silver has 9 seats in the 25-75% probability of either side winning category. Obama won all 9 of those states in 2008. But he now has negative approval numbers in 6 of them. Beyond that his approval number is at least 7 points lower than the percentage of the vote he received in every single one of those states, and in 7 of the 9 it has dropped by a double digit margin.

        There's not much doubt that Barack Obama is the biggest reason why most of these blue state Senate races are looking so competitive and getting 15-20% of the vote from people who disapprove of Obama is going to be critical to the victory chances of many of these Democratic candidates.

        I know, I know... now PPP suck!

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        by SJerseyIndy on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:31:10 AM PDT

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        •  I think PPP has been excellent this season. (3+ / 0-)
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          I do think Feingold's problem stems from his idiotic fleeing from Obama. Compare his race to Murray and Boxer. Both of them are liberal and are seeing better poll results as their actions have fired up the base. Feingold on the other hand has aired ads to woo teabaggers and is fleeing from Obama and the Democratic brand. It's going to hurt him in the end, just like it did with Lincoln.

          •  Dude. (1+ / 0-)
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            Click. The. Fucking. Link.

            1. it addresses CA too

            and

            1. it would stop you from making argument that have been addressed

            :holyfuckinheadhurt:

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            by SJerseyIndy on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:41:25 AM PDT

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            •  I read the link and while I think PPP's polls (2+ / 0-)
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              have been very accurate and may be right on WA and CA, I don't think they are completely right on why Feingold is having significantly more problems than Murray or Boxer. I wasn't aware that PPP's analysis was considered gospel.

              •  t's not "gospel", but it's also not... (0+ / 0-)

                to be denied in favor of "Leave Barack alone!", which is obvious to me is the sentiment behind the contentions, given the uprates of the usual suspects.

                You're free to find fantasy more fun.

                Tootles.

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                by SJerseyIndy on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:55:40 AM PDT

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      •  So why is 'generic Dem' Barrett (0+ / 0-)

        doing even worse?

        Agricultural hemp is "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."

        by ben masel on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 06:54:56 PM PDT

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    •  Let me (6+ / 0-)
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      try to understand your logic here.

      Obama has not been liberal enough,therefore,
      voters are going to abandon him and
      vote for Club for Growth conservatives,because,
      they will be more liberal than Obama?

      That simply does not make sense.
      Obama and the dems have lost some indys because they have bought the bullshit the teaGOPers are selling that Obama and dems are too free-spending and liberal.

      We keep hearing how Obama has lost his base,but in reality, it is the indys who just look at the economy and say that the solutions have not worked.

      •  You're free to deny the numbers. (0+ / 0-)

        You have plenty of company in so doing.

        In addition to the numbers, I'm also speaking from direct experience in talking to voters in PA for example.

        Deny that too if you must.

        There's no place like home.

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        by SJerseyIndy on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:32:26 AM PDT

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