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  •  The economy isn't that bad in WI overall. (5+ / 0-)

    I think the problem is two-fold - one the students aren't paying attention yet and Dems can't win without U-W Madison students turning out. Obama is holding a rally there that will help. The other is Feingold pissing off the AA community in Milwaukee with his publicly dissing Obama. He needs them to turn out and taking a crap on Obama isn't going to get them to the polls.

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      I wonder if being too negative about Obama will hurt you in the African American community.  That might be an issue, and Feignold is only up 50-33 among them.

      But I don't believe PPP on thisd, and Obama should be able to help with that group if is a problem.

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      by fladem on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:45:45 AM PDT

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      •  I'd like to see Obama do some rallies in (1+ / 0-)
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        major cities to drive out the AA vote including Milwaukee. Of course that would mean that Feingold would have to show up for the Milwaukee rally. Feingold left the last Milwaukee rally before Obama arrived and got a lot of press for it in WI.

    •  We need to mobilize the student vote. (1+ / 0-)
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      They are on the front lines of the important issue of LGBT rights. We need to get the professors at UW-Madison to frankly do their job and educate students on the important issues of the day, namely cap-and-trade, repeal of DOMA/DADT and comprehensive immigration reform.  It is up to the professors, they need to do their job in educating the students to get out and vote.

      •  Fer pity's sake, now it's the profs (3+ / 0-)

        who aren't doing their job?  Their job is not to promulgate the party; that's for the gov and the Dem party to do.

        And do the research; Wisconsin voters of student age already turn out to vote more than in all but one other state -- and that was so even before 2008.  Aim for the voters who usually stay home.

        "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

        by Cream City on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:56:28 AM PDT

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        •  We need the professors to enforce. (0+ / 0-)

          The education college students are receiving from other important sources like MTV and movies. Students learn first hand of the wonders of having LGBT friends, of the need to have student loans extinguished, of the wonders of having friends who are great people in all respects but are solely lacking a document. In other words, it is professor's job to reinforce what students learn from MTV and other tremendous sources of knowledge and people power.

          •  Reinforce, maybe. Enforce? No. (0+ / 0-)

            Fer pity's sake, we're trying to educate them, including to see all sides.  

            It's a massive task, already.  If you want preachers instead of teachers, endow your local Bible college.

            "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

            by Cream City on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:41:21 PM PDT

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      •  Well, I am not sure it is the prof's job. (1+ / 0-)
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        And remember in WI, you can register to vote on election day. I wouldn't expect students to get too excited about the midterms until Obama's rally in WI.

        •  Obama's rally will be in Madison (0+ / 0-)

          where it is least needed to get out the student vote -- in part because a lot of students in Madison are not (and will not opt to vote as) Wisconsinites.

          Obama already had his rally in Milwaukee, with the UW campus with many more Wisconsinites -- but it was a rally for union members, and school barely had started.  He could return to Milwaukee . . . but we didn't need no prezzes and badges to already be one of the top states for student turnout at the polls, and for a long time now.  (So yeh, you don't need to remind us of our voting regs in Wisconsin. . . .)

          Again, I would see him as more useful in the Indy voter areas.

          "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

          by Cream City on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 10:58:07 AM PDT

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          •  A rally in Madison is absolutely essential for (0+ / 0-)

            Dems. We are going to get thousands of votes from Madison students alone. A large portion of the students at Madison are Wisconsites and others will choose to vote in Wisconsin instead of their home states.

            I'd like another rally in downtown Milwaukee to rev up the AA vote, which we need for November.

            •  Exactly. You are going to get good turnout (0+ / 0-)

              among Madison students, anyway.  So the rallies ought to be near other campuses, proven in the recent past to be pivotal to state Dems when they notice at all the campus towns up north, to the west, etc.  I would count on that more than AA vote turnout this time.

              "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

              by Cream City on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:53:43 PM PDT

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