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  •  So...It occurs to me to ask... (0+ / 0-)

    Were you really responding to my supposed insensitivity about how very very much gays really really care about gay rights, or were you really just reacting to my mention of Libertarians and others whose only purpose on dkos is to slag Obama and the Democrats, and who tend to respond to objections to that with a lot of bullshit persiflage?

    In reviewing this thread, I'm getting the...uncomfortable...feeling that maybe I've just been "punk'd" in that regard, lol, emo sucker that I am.

    Care to address the real content and meaning of my initial Comment, about unprincipled weasels, gay or otherwise, who defy the TOS?

    "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

    by Radical def on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 03:45:02 PM PDT

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    •  Was responding to you very real... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...and not "supposed" insensivity to how much Gay Americans care about their rights. You made comments that struck a nerve in me, given my life and my recent personal loss. That's all. As to people who diss Dems without reason other than an apparent animosity toward the party, I liberally HR them, no matter their orientation, though with the milquetoast-y approach of this Presidency, it's getting harder and harder to tell the justifiably upset Progressives from the trolls. A lot of people are unhappy, you know.

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      by Larry Bailey on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 05:30:43 PM PDT

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      •  kk...fair enough (0+ / 0-)

        ...although I think it's far more appropriate to direct the anger and unhappiness at the Republicans, and to clearly delineate re: Blue Dogs, rather than speaking in terms of "teh Dems".

        While the party as a whole, and Obama, are far from ideal, I think the first priority is to remove the corrupting and coercive influence of the right...once that has been more substantially accomplished, THEN we can sort out the "liberals" and "progressives", heh,.

        I think the party would be able to do a hell of a lot more, if they were not literally being held hostage by the right, forcing them to make onerous compromises to get even the slightest, most inadequate things done, and to prevent complete reversal on everything accomplished in the past.

        I think a good deal of the angst and despair many people are expressing is largely driven by MSM, who are deliberately trying to demoralize us and set us against each other.

        For all the awareness about how much MSM lies and spins everything, far too many people here still seem to buy into the memes, far too much. such as "teh Dems are doomed".

        Right now, power is hanging by a thread.  Just a few more progressives, and a few less Blue Dogs and Republicans in Congress, will shift that balance of power very significantly, such that we can really surge forward into the 21st Century.

        This is no time to give up...or to attack the only party that's even trying to do what needs done.  

        All fire should be directed at the right, where the real obstacles and fundamental problems reside.

        "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

        by Radical def on Thu Sep 23, 2010 at 10:19:57 AM PDT

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