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  •  actually, that was the original intent (10+ / 0-)

    of charters as proposed by Ray Budde and Al Shanker.

    There are teacher run schools around the country.  That's what Deb Meier did at Central Park East.  In a sense, the famous "hippie high" of the H B Woodlawn alternative program in Arlington VA where I live was a teacher-run school, because the founder Ray Anderson continued to teach all the time he was head of school.

    "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

    by teacherken on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 06:06:38 PM PDT

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    •  But how many of those schools are public/charter (2+ / 0-)
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      vs. totally private?

      "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

      by Geenius at Wrok on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 06:11:03 PM PDT

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      •  an increasing number (5+ / 0-)

        at a conference in Richmond about 2 months back, run by Terry Dozier, one-time national teacher of the year, there were leaders from two such, both public schools.

        "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

        by teacherken on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 06:12:42 PM PDT

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        •  Surely there are enough (5+ / 0-)

          of us unemployed and underemployed teachers out here that we could create such schools in numbers that would shake the foundations of Microsoft's corporate HQ! Someone please tell me where to sign up.

          "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

          by Geenius at Wrok on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 06:15:16 PM PDT

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          •  That's the challenge. (4+ / 0-)

            If you want it to be teacher-run, the teachers have to find the time and money to get it going. It requires not just teaching know-how, but the skills, networking, and infrastructure to set up a complete organization from scratch, including financial, marketing, facilities, legal, etc.

            Who knows how to do all that? Business executives.

            And that is the answer to your original question.

            Make. Them. Filibuster.

            by NWTerriD on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 06:24:57 PM PDT

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            •  Definitely part of the challenge. (0+ / 0-)

              But I will tell you this: every decent teacher out there, even the specialists like myself (special education) have idle dreams about creating our own schools.  I think it takes a couple of decades for the system to pound that out of teachers.  

              Financing and liability, plus selling your particular take on the concept, are the huge factors involved.  However, look at the number of veteran teachers who try to go the consultant route, or adjunct teaching route.  Those are the ones who'd create their own schools in a heartbeat...and I'm one of them.  I just don't have the time, energy, and administrative know-how to do the day-to-day setup and management piece of the job.

              •  I am a teacher. I know teachers WANT to do that. (0+ / 0-)

                But your last sentence reinforces the point of my original comment: teachers don't typically have the business know-how to do it, so the business people do it instead.

                Make. Them. Filibuster.

                by NWTerriD on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 08:49:44 AM PDT

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