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  •  Doesn't work, especially now... (5+ / 0-)
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    that we have expanded the social benefits that accrue to every citizen.  It is no accident that those countries with the most expansive social benefits have the most rigid immigration restrictions.

    You virtually can not become a citizen of countries such as Switzerland or Denmark, as who in the world wouldn't want to go there.  

    •  what does citizenship have to do with the (0+ / 0-)

      crime of being?

      Whatever action a great man performs, common men follow. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. The Gita 3.21

      by rasbobbo on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 11:42:10 PM PDT

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      •  Yep lets just merge all the Americas into.... (3+ / 0-)

        ...into one big banana republic under the corporate globalists. That will solve all our problems. Then the one percenters with all the money can play the various races and classes against one another so as to distract from the fact they are fucking everyone. Not everybody is stupid enough to buy this Neo/Liberal/Conservative crap that is a race to the bottom for all but a few.

        Since inception of "Globalism" the gains of generations of Liberal policy and the most successful middle classes in history have been wiped out by a few greed pricks selling their version of world brotherhood that is literally the slavery of banana republicanism and new royalty for a very small management ownership class.

        If you believe that doing away with borders is not part of this process then you are dumb as a rock.

        The Mexican people ought to revolt and kill the fifty-six or so families that have ruled Mexico the turn of the Twentieth Century and create a society that serves their needs, but that is not going to happen because of few mouthy liars claiming the brotherhood of man as their rational want to import that system here and to the rest of the first world.

        I dislike some elements of nationalism but not enough to buy the lies of the Globalists who intend only economic rape, in a new form of Eighteenth Century imperialism that will destroy economic opportunity and democrat governments worldwide. Fuck the Globalists and any fools who think their rice bowls will be filled by helping them screw all the rest of the human population.

        All of this Neo-conservative/Neo-Liberal bullshit is about political and economic power for a new royalty based on corporate power and a worldwide Fascist system will be their product. And it will be done in the name of helping the world’s poor and disadvantaged  and progressive ism when it is actually a retreat to feudalism under and different demographic.

        The young man who has not wept is a savage, and the old man who will not laugh is a fool. George Santayana

        by Bobjack23 on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 12:59:52 AM PDT

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        •  Insights within the anger.... (0+ / 0-)

          but try a new style, less gonzo and more reason.  Mix it up a bit.  What I got out of watching the hearing is that buzz matters.  I wouldn't have had the exposure if not for Colbert's schtict.  And what you have to say may be true, but rather than being funny, the anger shows hopelessness of there ever being any change.

          Nationalism is a hard sell, as much as showing the that the generosity of humanism is a mast for oligarchic control.

          You are on to something, worthy of a diary here, at the least.

        •  i'm pretty sure not every person in the u.s. (0+ / 0-)

          is claiming citizenship or claiming every benefit "that accrues to citizenship." that was my point, but i guess i'm "dumb as a rock." if you buy into jefferson's preamble to the declaration of independence, all men are created equal - think he misspoke & meant to say "all citizens?"
          i'd appreciate an explanation of why the alternative to the current system with such sterling features as; hundreds of border crossing deaths, exploitation & harassment of people who "look illegal" & incredibly wasteful use of police & detention personnel & facilities is some sort of hemispheric banana republic. cause i'm, you know, "dumb as a rock."
          the mexican people should throw off their oligarchic yoke? claro. how about us united statesians? do we not have a fraction of a percent of our population skimming the wealth & controlling our government? does the misdirection of blaming "illegals" further our pursuit of a society that serves our needs?
          you want to make a defense of our current system of criminalizing people for merely existing on our side of the border? make it. you want to justify the hysterical outrage that is driving political discourse here in arizona? make your case. i'll read it, you know, real slow like any dumb as a rock has to when trying to understand a super genius.

          Whatever action a great man performs, common men follow. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. The Gita 3.21

          by rasbobbo on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 10:21:10 AM PDT

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    •  Until recently in Switzerland there was a setup (1+ / 0-)
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      … (perhaps it was only in one canton or a part of a canton) where would-be immigrants appeared individually, with a photo, on the ballot in the town where they were living.

      If a majority of the voters in your community didn't say "yes" to you specifically, you couldn't become a Swiss citizen.

      This supposedly made each immigrant responsible for their own behavior and individual reputation among the local citizenry, rather than being dealt with en masse.

      The system seemed to be working until in the late 1990s, after an influx of people fleeing the breakup of Yugoslavia, voters started saying "no" to everyone regardless of how qualified and well-integrated they were.

      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war.

      by lotlizard on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 12:46:46 AM PDT

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