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  •  Political v Humanitarian (5+ / 0-)

    Citizen53, Yeah, the report does acknowledge one the purpose of the flotilla was both humanitarian and political. However, it concludes its over rider goal was purely guided by "the spirit of humanitarianism and imbued with a deep and genuine concern for the welfare of the inhabitants of Gaza."

    Every human rights activist in the world would admit they have a political goal. That doesn't change Israel's obligation to international law.

    •  No, Paragraph 80 says clearly that the primary... (2+ / 0-)
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      purpose was political.

      Further, to mingle the two may threaten humanitarian efforts, which is why they should NEVER be political.

      Insults do not change minds. I likely will choose not to reply. And my view does not invariably depend on your interpretation or projection, just my own.

      by citizen53 on Sat Oct 02, 2010 at 04:49:22 PM PDT

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    •  One more thing... (3+ / 0-)
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      I think your last statement is very inaccurate.

      There is a reason why the ICRC is expressly NONPOLITICAL.  Humanitarian workers should not take sides, and most do not.  They understand what the risks are to humanitarian aid that is used to pursue political agendas, and that the safety of humanitarian workers is jeopardized when the rule of distinction is ignored.

      Insults do not change minds. I likely will choose not to reply. And my view does not invariably depend on your interpretation or projection, just my own.

      by citizen53 on Sat Oct 02, 2010 at 04:53:11 PM PDT

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      •  Interesting discussion, but okofay is right. (3+ / 0-)
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        For informative background, look at the behavior of humanitarians in apartheid South Africa.  There were serious issued there.  Humanitarian work requires taking a political side sometimes -- when the humanitarian crisis is essentially caused by one of the political sides.  Pretty much every humanitarian will admit that if you push them.

        -5.63, -8.10. Learn about Duverger's Law.

        by neroden on Sat Oct 02, 2010 at 05:01:44 PM PDT

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        •  I did not realize that you are the judge. (3+ / 0-)
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          I know numerous practitioners who would disagree with you.  The foremost humanitarian organization, the ICRC, as well.  They understand that they cannot be effective if they are seen as political.

          Insults do not change minds. I likely will choose not to reply. And my view does not invariably depend on your interpretation or projection, just my own.

          by citizen53 on Sat Oct 02, 2010 at 05:08:34 PM PDT

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