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  •  nah. (0+ / 0-)

    none of what you wrote is true.
    none of it.
    i've seen you post something like this before.
    this seems to really get under your skin so i'll comment.

    no one is boasting.
    there are no gangs.
    just people who agree in uprates and downrates from both sides.
    that does not make them a gang.
    even though i get what you mean.
    when you disagree with a group of commenters, you start thinking they roam in a pack.
    that is silly. they do not.
    it's just you making them a gang just because they agree.
    i guess you would think obama supporters at a rally are part of a gang?

    and i've personally seen all parties berated.
    and i've personally seen people i like and agree with  get their ratings pulled.
    and i've seen people i don't care for and disgree iwth get their ratings pulled.
    and i've had mine suspended before as well, before you go thinking i'm here to worship at the alter of MeteorBlades.

    so all your accusations and  complaints?
    i'm sorry.
    not true at all.

    The little gang who consistently abuse the rules don't seem to be sanctioned by you at all - and certainly are not the subject of public, ugly character smears like the ones you tossed my way.

    The more you publicly chastise those that stand up to them, the more you empower thuggish behavior and overt rules abuse. They are boasting about it now, and using your personal insults as weapons against those who stand up to them.

    I'm not mistaken. The current moderation system doesn't work, and doesn't make much sense in light of what is known about online community dynamics, particularly in large communities.

    "Oh no...you changed your hair color? It's just so dark. You like it? And with your skin tone?" My Beloved Mom, December 25 2007, once again on notice.

    by Christin on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 06:28:06 PM PDT

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    •  I provided exhaustive evidence (0+ / 0-)

      in a comment the day before yesterday, documenting how the members of this gang openly boast about their group gang-ups, about policing "their" turf and driving others out.

      It is plainly evident to anyone who ever participates in any discussion on Daily Kos that includes the word "race", that there is a small group of people, numbering somewhere between half a dozen and a dozen, who unconditionally rate up each other's comment, regardless of content, and gang up to HR people they don't like, again regardless of content.

      They openly and regularly accuse everyone who does not genuflect to the Tim Wise theory of social justice as a "white male privileged racist" - even though half of them are white and privileged themselves, including one of their most vocal ringleaders.

      Not only do they regularly abuse MB's rules, but they boast about doing it, and they dare others to report them - which I regularly do. There have been no visible sanctions in particular against two posters who have abusively HR'd dozens of comments, nearly daily, and who regularly uprate the most abusive and ugly personal insults.

      It is a gang. I realize it is easy to dismiss this as CT, but I posted quote after quote of them talking about themselves as a separate community on Daily Kos, and about their power to prevent others from expressing views they find objectionable.

      Simply looking at the time stamps in many flamefests reveals how quickly a whole group of them appears in discussions that none of them were active participants in a moment before - not to contribute to the conversation, but to mass-HR or mass-uprate personal attacks.

      BTW, this is not the first time in the history of DKos that such groups have existed.

      It is, however, the first time in the history of DKos that such a group has apparent immunity and tacit suport from the Moderator, even so far as not to object to them using his words as a means of giving credibility to their character assassination.

      I guarantee you that, even though I have named no names in this comment, I will be HR'd by a whole pack of them, as soon as they do their keyword search and one of them finds me here. Their notion of the fight for justice is to silence dissent.

      Always make new mistakes - Esther Dyson

      by RandomActsOfReason on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 07:11:21 PM PDT

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      •  Ok, you... (3+ / 0-)
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        vcmvo2, sofia, Mets102

        Don't bring those fights in here.  We have enough flame to fest-fest on our own in I/P.

        It's bad enough you bring ugly comments to both sets of diaries.  

        Not that you'll listen, but it had to be said.  Don't bother with a response.  

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