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  •  There... (2+ / 0-)
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    AaronInSanDiego, Catte Nappe

    ...is less of a need than ever for unskilled and semi-skilled labor these days. Most unskilled labor has been replaced by automation, and "management" and paper-pushing jobs have been replaced by better office productivity and computer systems. The kind of work a lawyer would have handed off to a secretary years ago they just do themselves.

    Certainly it's not like the rich have gotten more greedy lately, just that the dynamics have changed toward automation and outsourcing because of technological and political progress.

    But that's the tradeoff of technology. You gain productivity at the expense of those who previously did the work. Globally we all get richer collectively, but particular people lose their jobs, and it's the poor and middle class in developed countries that really take it on the chin as the rich make deals with the truly poor instead of the previous middle class.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 04:28:28 PM PDT

    •  "Certainly it's not like the rich have gotten (1+ / 0-)
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      more greedy lately" Of course they have. Certainly.

      •  So... (1+ / 0-)
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        AaronInSanDiego

        ...rich people of 2010 are more greedy than 1990's rich people? I doubt that. People are people.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 04:40:24 PM PDT

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        •  they're scared (1+ / 0-)
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          They screwed up Wall Street so bad, they're in a panic. They're very insecure, but they can't help doing more of what caused the initial problem. They're so afraid of a collapse they want to get what they can as fast as possible, which of course makes a collapse more likely.
          We have to have a stable Wall Street, (which means real regulation) and we really need the "transaction fee" proposed by Rep. deFazio.

          •  You are personalizing this too much (0+ / 0-)

            "Wall Street" is thousands of people with differing and sometimes flatly contradictory motivations. Saying that "Wall Street" did this or that is like saying that Daily Kos wants or doesn't want something: some or many people might, but it's hard to pin the entity itself down at all.

            (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
            Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

            by Sparhawk on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 07:03:17 PM PDT

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    •  Questioning that (0+ / 0-)

      If technology is such a central driver of concentration of wealth, why do so many technologically advanced nations have relatively low levels of concentration of wealth, and why do so many less technologically advanced nations have relatively high levels?

      Using CIA Gini as a measure, what, about technology and concentration of wealth, office automation and the like, would make the United States so very different from Sweden, Norway, and Austria, and put it in the neighborhood of Cameroon and Rwanda?

    •  Except that the current destruction of the (1+ / 0-)
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      middle class is a matter of wages that were deliberately decoupled from productivity gains over the same period that taxes on the wealthy were slashed and union-busting tactics implemented.

      This isn't simply the work of 'gains in technology'.  This was indeed deliberate warfare by the greedy, for the greedy, upon the workers who had previously dared to share in some of the wealth.

      If you feel insulted by anything I've said, find out if it was intentional. I'll let you know if you ask.

      by Ezekial 23 20 on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 07:20:05 PM PDT

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