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  •  Who would have been a better doctor for this (1+ / 0-)
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    patient. Give me your best referral? One who was willing to accept the patient in 2008?

    Get 10 people you know to commit to vote Democratic on November 2; and ask them to each seek 10.

    by Blogvirgin on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 05:40:00 PM PDT

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    •  As we say to teenagers... (2+ / 0-)
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      who say "everybody does it"... if all your friends jumped off a roof, would you do it too?  

      Stupidity is still stupid, even if everyone in the crowd is stupid.  It doesn't get smarter just because everyone agrees that cautiousness and obliviousness to modern economic theory is the easy path.

      •  You did not answer the question. Nice dance, no (0+ / 0-)

        dice. Who among the candidates who were running for President in 2008 would have been a better President than President Obama?  This is a direct and simple question. Can you answer it or will you give me another response filled with fantasy and what ifs?

        Get 10 people you know to commit to vote Democratic on November 2; and ask them to each seek 10.

        by Blogvirgin on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 06:10:09 PM PDT

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        •  Hey, you didn't answer my question either (4+ / 0-)

          Why do only your questions get answers?  Or don't bother, since like yours, we know each other's answers already.

          Of COURSE we are trapped with our incompetent doctor.  We all know the alternative doctors were  even worse, and that he's got tenure.  He knows that, and he knows that he doesn't even have to be competent because he is after all more competent than most of the other doctors in town.  

          But let's not pretend that our lack of choice means that we have a competent doctor.  We just have a doctor who sucks less than most of the readily available alternatives.  The fact that you seem to think that proves something just shows me how lost you really are!

          Why aren't we organizing to push him to at least bring on board people who have read modern texts and have a sense of what the modern standard of practice really is?

          The conventional pooh bahs twaddle on endlessly about their being (or having been) no alternatives and how this is the best we can do and how maybe someday the patient will get better. If that sort of thinking makes you happy you are welcome to it.  Enjoy yourself.  Really.  Laisse le bon temps roule. One thing you can count on with that kind of rhetorical approach is more of the same... and apparently that's good enough for you.

          I'm not particularly interested in Obama's success or failure, or at least not only in that.  I'm interested in our society's and our nation's success or failure.  If things can get better on Obama's foundations I'm all for it.  Unfortunately, the weight of scientific evidence suggests that they will not.  If things have to get worse in order to organize the political activity needed to get better, let the flood come.  

          I doubt Obama has built a foundation that will last (hope I'm wrong) so I'm a little indifferent to him and his success as an individual politician (or doctor if we must continue the metaphor).  

          Old fashioned patients (like you?) accepted whatever their doctor told them.  Modern patients research the issue and bring proposed treatments to their physician.  The progressive left is doing that, but the old fuddy wall street docs don't want to hear about ideas brought by the patients.

          The one thing I can't bear is justifiers of an unacceptable status quo, and justifiers of the political and economic malpractice that we have been subjected too by the Republican and ConservaDem party.  To be enthusiastic about what has been done, even to be enthusiastic about it on the grounds of "what choice do we have?" is to put yourself in moral and political universe that I want no part of.

          But really, if you like it so much enjoy it while it lasts!  Lots of Americans are feeling pretty sold out, but I'm glad it's working for you.

          •  It is working for me, and for many others (1+ / 0-)
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            who actually live in the real world and not some fantasy.  There is no Superman, there are only real people.  

            Those of us who have seen more than one campaign and have lived and worked under more than one President recognize that is a good man dealing with very difficult, very complex problems.  A man who has done more for this country in 22 months than the last four no six Presidents did in eight years, and that fact is also recognized by over 238 Presidental scholars who recently rated this President among our best, 15 and rising.

            Do you think you know more than they do?  What are your credentials?  Their opinions are devolved from research and historical perspective and yours comes from where????

            Too bad you are not as knowledgeable as they are and cannot appreciate this President for who he is and what he has done.

            Get 10 people you know to commit to vote Democratic on November 2; and ask them to each seek 10.

            by Blogvirgin on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 07:48:54 PM PDT

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