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  •  i doubt they'll return nothing. (4+ / 0-)

    I know of something specific regarding this case, that I can't discuss in public.  

    It is highly probable that at least one person will be indicted as an accessory.  

    •  That would be good, (1+ / 0-)
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      G2geek

      no accomplice should get away with it. But I've learned my lesson... don't believe in Fitzmas anymore.

      Now, more than ever, we need the Jedi.

      by Joieau on Sat Oct 09, 2010 at 07:42:57 PM PDT

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      •  I don't believe in Santa Claus either.... (2+ / 0-)
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        Creosote, PinHole

        .... but this is not a crime involving prominent public figures: it's exactly the type of down-and-dirty thug crime that the Feds excel at prosecuting.  By analogy, the way they took down a racist terrorist group by busting them for a bank robbery.  

        In the last couple of weeks (including last night!) I've thought about the Tiller case, and thought that the evidence must have turned out to be insufficient to prosecute the additional person(s) involved.  The fact that a grand jury is dealing with it proved me wrong on that, and I've been doing the proverbial Snoopy Dance since I found out.  

        •  Exactly this is not a crime involving people who (2+ / 0-)
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          G2geek, wilderness voice

          work for the President of the United States like Karl Rove or involving the Vice President and President. Fitzgerald had one helluva tough hill to climb.  And I will always believe Scooter was the designated fall guy and that Rove and Bush were up to their earlobes in this and decided Scooter would take the fall. And Cheney was pissed off Bush never did pardon Scooter just commuted his sentence. Cheney wanted a pardon and did not get it for Scooter. Something tells me Bush once again promised more than he delivered and let Scooter be the fall guy and reassured Darth Cheney that he would pardon Scooter and then did not...

          Maybe I am tin foil..but anyway..back to this grand jury.  I agree, this is Far Far different than the task Fitz had to do.

          •  believe me it pains me majorly when... (1+ / 0-)
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            wishingwell

            .... the wheels of justice don't turn full circle, or when law enforcement makes a serious mistake.  I can't defend any of that, much less the kind of thing that went on with Scooter compared to Cheney, much less the lack of prosecution of Ed Meese for treating with the enemy (Iran) during the Hostage Crisis in order to get Reagan elected.  

            But occasionally there is something to celebrate bigtime, and for me today is one of those because it would appear that some of the additional players in the Tiller assassination may end up sitting at a Defense table clad in orange jumpsuits.  

            When a case is really important to prosecutors, they will see to it that no stone is left unturned in terms of dotting all the I's and crossing all the T's.  One key to that is when you read the magic words "got a warrant" for a wiretap or a search, rather than using recent stuff such as the Patriot Act as a rationale for not needing to do so.  And every time law enforcement does the proper steps like that, also helps reinforce the standard that those steps are necessary in order to secure a case that can be prosecuted successfully.  

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