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  •  a 13% spread in achievement.... (1+ / 0-)
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    between the scores of students in a state where teachers have the right to strong and effective representation for themselves and their students (Massachusetts) and a "right to work state" where teachers have have little or no voice in matters relating to the education of their students (MIssissippi.) The numbers tell the story.

    Infidels in all ages have battled for the rights of man, and have at all times been the advocates of truth and justice... Robert Ingersol

    by BMarshall on Sat Oct 09, 2010 at 08:30:00 PM PDT

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    •  Correlation is not causation (0+ / 0-)

      There are many ways that Mississippi is unlike Massachusetts. How can you be sure that unionization is related causally to good test scores? Might it be that teacher non-unionization and low student test scores be both caused by a third factor (i.e. perhaps the general socioeconomic status of those states and their politics?).

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      by Sparhawk on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 05:49:14 AM PDT

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      •  low socioeconomic factors? (0+ / 0-)

        I would agree that there is probably a direct connection between the low socioeconomic status of the people and results in education. Thank you for helping me make my point. When the politics of an area prevent people from organizing and fighting for their right to negotiate for a better deal for themselves, their neighbors and their children, hard working people suffer and a few businessmen walk away with the fruits of a communities labor. The South's poor socioeconomic status is certainly directly related to workers inability to form strong labor unions.

        Infidels in all ages have battled for the rights of man, and have at all times been the advocates of truth and justice... Robert Ingersol

        by BMarshall on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 07:11:12 AM PDT

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