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  •  Don't worry (1+ / 0-)
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    Justanothernyer

    No lectures on typos.  

    The Milwaukee voucher program's 20 years old -- one program in one city.  Very dissimilar to most of the reforms that people like Rhee and Klein have worked toward.

    But the fact is that the vast majority of kids in public schools are in traditional public schools that are run in about the same way they've been operated since the 50s and 60s.  My only point is that system has worked okay for some kids (rich and middle class white students) but hasn't worked well for many others (students of color and working class families).  So let's acknowledge that failure and look for solutions.

    I'm really just for good schools with good teachers in the classroom -- I don't care if they're charters, magnets, unionized, whatever.  

    •  you acknowledge Milwaukee's a failure (0+ / 0-)

      and yet, in making the decision that found the Cleveland voucher program constitutional, Sandra Day O'Connor's opinion relied on research from the likes of Jay Greene that (a) was not peer-reviewed, and (b) was countered by other research that was peer-reviewed by the likes of John Witte that showed the approach was not working.

      Now we have the CREDO study which makes clear that charter schools are worse than public schools at a rate more than twice as great as those that are better:

      17% better
      47% no different
      36% worse

      and yet this administration insisted that states drop limits on chartering without requiring any control that would point in the direction of the schools that were better.

      And of the schools that were "better?"   Many have extra money from foundations.  Many are able to exclude the hard to educate - English Language Learners, Special Education kids, etc.  Some, like some KIPP schools, "counsel out" the kids who are not performing well, or whose parents will not commit them to Saturday schools, or in some cases may those commitments a requirement of admission.  

      Yes, in some places charter admission is by lottery.  That is far from universally true.  

      "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

      by teacherken on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 03:19:40 AM PDT

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