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    •  Aren't you kicking our own? (0+ / 0-)

      I don't get this site's sense of internal consistency.

      Example: "Alan Grayson is losing because of massive GOP spending." Reality: Alan Grayson is losing because his district already felt offended by him and hated him, as measured by polling. "No, that's kicking our own!"

      Walt Minnick, like Alan Grayson, has very little chance of being re-elected. Both are now doing desperate-looking, alienating things to be re-elected. So when's it acceptable?

      I know Western politics and I know that Minnick's at least doing something that could work (not this late really, but it could). It's wrong, but then there's the question of if Walt should have just not bothered fundraising and campaigning much.

      •  When "our own" (6+ / 0-)
        spouts racist attacks, "our own" should be kicked.

        Deoliver47, quoting Bernice Johnson Reagon: "If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition"

        by TomP on Wed Oct 13, 2010 at 11:49:25 AM PDT

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      •  First, there is no (7+ / 0-)

        "consistency" advertised here; we're different people with differing views, and openly express them. Second, one thing that we ARE consistent about is fighting racism wherever it exists - even if that place is in the campaign of a Democrat. Third, what exactly has Grayson done that is anything like as desperate or alienating as what Minnick has done? I'm not a huge Grayson fan, but this is preposterous.

        I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

        by doc2 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 at 11:52:57 AM PDT

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        •  Taliban Dan? (0+ / 0-)

          You know, that thing that earned wide condemnation across the media?

          •  That was just stupid. It was not (0+ / 0-)

            anything like the racism coming out of Minnick.

            I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

            by doc2 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 at 12:18:29 PM PDT

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            •  You mean, because it wasn't racist? (0+ / 0-)

              I mean, technically, no kidding.

              Although there is something inherently alluding to Islamophobic worldviews.

              But we're not talking about apples to apples comparisons of right and wrong. We're talking about criticizing candidates when they're in competitive/losing races. Minnick is locked in a tight race, and his vote could be the difference between GOP majority or not.

              We should have a discussion about what is intolerable in the Democratic Party and how big this tent should be. Saying "racism: period" is not a comprehensive answer because racism can be far more subtle or done by omission, too. I'm of the opinion that race-baiters, Joe Lieberman, Blanche Lincoln, Dianne Feinstein, and pro-torture, pro-spying, pro-Iraq people shouldn't be in the party. But that's me.

      •  Minnick was expected to win rather easily (2+ / 0-)
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        Joan McCarter, Nulwee

        Ironically, this move which pisses off a lot of people gives his opponent an issue to attack Minnick on.

        Mason-Dixon had Minnick up 10 a few weeks ago.

        http://media.idahostatesman.com/...

        Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

        by Scarce on Wed Oct 13, 2010 at 11:53:14 AM PDT

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        •  That's my big problem with it (4+ / 0-)
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          it's gratuitous. He didn't need to do it.

          But more than that, it shoots all the hell the years and years of work Dems have been investing working with the Latino community in Idaho, which--in a hostile state--are reluctant to be politically active for Dems. Years of intimidation and suppression in the overwhelmingly Republican counties they mostly inhabit has really dampened their participation.

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