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  •  just wondering (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm doing some work for OFA with my cell at home.  I'm getting a lot of no answers. I would think it would be good to leave a message but the OFA website says not to.  All these people are going to be calling me tonight on my cell.  "Who are you and why are you calling my cell phone??"  

    •  thought the same thing (4+ / 0-)
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      i was tempted to leave a message that just said, please remember to vote Nov. 2 and get twenty of your friends/neighbors/family to vote.  but thought maybe OFA has a plan to do follow up.... so i just followed the script. i am very awkward at phone banking.  

      "Frustration is one of the great things in art; satisfaction is nothing."-philip guston

      by hardart on Sat Oct 16, 2010 at 02:49:46 PM PDT

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      •  thanks yeah surprising the script (1+ / 0-)
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        is kind of lame.  And then you're supposed to check a box "not home" when there is no answer.  These are all pretty much all cell phones (and it shows the age (mostly in their 20s) with the name and number and city of the person you're calling) so a choice of "not home" isn't correct.  It should give you a choice to enter "went to voicemail" or "did not answer".  

        When I did some phonebanking in support of the health care legislation to be voted on earlier this year, I got all kinds of call backs to my cell in the next few days...

        •  A lot of folks won't answer (2+ / 0-)
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          if it's a number that they don't recognized, or worse, a "blocked" number. I had a big game of phone tag with my mother-in-law because she has the call blocking on her landline phone; she's now been calling me from her cell phone because it's cheaper anyway (we're in a different area code from her so there are some zone charges on the landline).

          "When it gets harder to love, love harder" -- Van Jones, NN10, 7/23/10

          by Cali Scribe on Sat Oct 16, 2010 at 03:47:03 PM PDT

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          •  yeah, I would think it would be helpful (2+ / 0-)
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            to leave a nice GOTV message instead of just hanging up.  In fact, I'm going to start doing it.

            It's a waste of my time and theirs to just have missed calls showing up and them wondering who the hell was calling. Particularly when I'm a calling from the same general area (the numbers assigned are all for Chicago area young Democrats who voted in the last election).  It's not like an 800 number or some out of state call. Cell phone users rarely answer a call from a number they don't have programmed into their cell.  I always let it go to voicemail and see if I want to talk to them...

            AND, if I was canvassing door to door I would be leaving a GOTV flyer so I don't know why this would be considered differently.  

            New more productive game plan for tomorrow. Now I'm excited.  

            •  Just got back from the OFA phone-bank in Oakland (5+ / 0-)
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              askew, elwior, FORUS50, ssldenver, kktlaw

              and I asked about it. One thing they said is that with a message, there is no follow up as there is with an actual contact. Anybody who actually says they will vote will be called again.

              I think the idea is that until right before the election, it's a better use of time to go ahead and make actual contact and get an actual commitment to vote than to leave a message. So, that's what I've been doing. I guess it's kind of personal preference. But no matter what, it's typical to make contact only about 8 to 10% of the time. By going through a lot of numbers quickly, you get more contacts. I noticed the people at the office who were calling to get volunteers for canvassing DID leave messages, but not the people who were calling first-time voters from 2008.

              Welcome to Berkeley: the Bitter Old Liberal Capital of the World!

              by MikeRayinBerkeley on Sat Oct 16, 2010 at 05:42:12 PM PDT

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              •  great information - thank you! (1+ / 0-)
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                elwior

                I will now not leave messages as I understand their strategy.  What you jsut told me posted on the phone instructions page on the website would be helpful for future GOTV as I'm sure others are feeling like it's not productive.  

                On Wednesday, I'm going down to a phone banking center downtown as I find it more motivating to be around others calling.

                •  Me, too! (1+ / 0-)
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                  I think after going down there 9 times, I've been built up by the presence of the other people enough that I'm ready to cold call alone at my house, only it never works in with the kids schedule, since I generally leave during their naps and do my calling then. I was also really jazzed today after seeing the inspiring responses in this diary, and I actually had a 20% contact rate, a bit more than double normal! The people around me were green with envy! I did 104 calls over a two-hour period, got 20 commits to vote, one maybe (needed to get an absentee ballot since was going to be out of town) and one volunteer. Yeah! Also, only one person in the whole Northern California Office OFA Staff even really knew what dailykos was, much less Nate Silver. I thought that was interesting. Doing this work is really getting to know America, and getting to know your allies.

                  Welcome to Berkeley: the Bitter Old Liberal Capital of the World!

                  by MikeRayinBerkeley on Sat Oct 16, 2010 at 06:45:35 PM PDT

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            •  It's reasearch based. The return on leaving (0+ / 0-)

              messages for the kind of calls you're making is close to zero, and it takes time you could be using dialing more numbers. You actually get more people that will call back because they missed a call and didn't get a message than will call back if they got a message from someone they didn't know.

              For volunteer recruitment, especially if you're calling people that have volunteered before, it's sometimes productive to leave messages.

              Near the end of GOTV, when we're trying to reach every last voter and the lists are down to the dregs, it can help to leave messages in hopes that people get the message in time to vote even if you don't manage to reach them on the phone.

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              by laderrick on Sat Oct 16, 2010 at 11:16:58 PM PDT

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