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  •  Which is why they need to vote early. (35+ / 0-)

    The caging plans in Madison and Milwaukee are said to be forming, aimed at students. Oh, and minorities too.

    You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. -- Sir Winston Churchill

    by bleeding heart on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 12:08:18 PM PDT

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    •  Anything we can do for anti-caging? (12+ / 0-)

      Does Madison or Milwaukee need legal assistance, or help with posters and fliers to explain rights and procedures?

      Also, as we expected, the vote suppression that Wisconsin saw first is now showing up all over the country. Since Wisconsin was so far ahead, and since there's good evidence of the money trail, can we put some of that material together as a media kit? As soon as something is found locally, we would have an easy explanation to give to the local newspapers and TV stations.

      Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

      by chimpy on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 12:19:12 PM PDT

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      •  Early voting and same day Registration. (12+ / 0-)

        The Tea Party coloring book only requires one crayon; . WHITE ~ Someone tweeted to Keith Olbermann

        by WeBetterWinThisTime on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 12:27:57 PM PDT

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      •  My hope that the Obama visit, (8+ / 0-)

        combined with early voting will take care of the Madison students.

        I don't know how they will handle minority areas.

        The only thing I can suggest would be to contact one of Feingold's campaign field offices and ask. Milwaukee could potentially be a challenge.

        To be clear, I do not speak for the campaign. I'm just a long-time supporter.

        You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. -- Sir Winston Churchill

        by bleeding heart on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 12:59:33 PM PDT

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      •  somebody here should've diaried that... (4+ / 0-)
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        ..."voter caging". I didn't do a search on it, but I'm betting nobody here did diary it. It's one of the repubs' dirtiest gambits on their bags of dirty tricks. They get a list of registered voters and target a specific demographic, in what they perceive as a vulnerable and/or critical locale. They send a letter to the known name and address listed on the registrar's list of registered voters. If it comes back "address or addresse unknown" they compile a list and present it to the poll captain challenging them as "ineligible to vote". This is just one of the tools used and how FL Sos Katherine Harris managed to purge the voter rolls of 48,000-58,000 Dems prior to the 2000 presidential election.

        "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way." John Paul Jones

        by ImpeachKingBushII on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 02:17:01 PM PDT

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        •  Here's a FP on it (7+ / 0-)

          One Wisconsin Now did a story on it and it did get picked up here

          All other hoped-for outcomes for the betterment of this nation flow from the bedrock of Good Government.

          by zett on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 02:52:06 PM PDT

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        •  One Wisconsin Now (7+ / 0-)

          A few covered it, plus the money trail leading to national Republican groups, and a command structure leading to state Republican committee.

          Front page story, One Wisconsin Now uncovers organized voter suppression effort by mcjoan:

          "Based on our discussions with legal counsel, we believe certain statements made at this Tea Party meeting clearly outline a plan by these organizations to engage in what may potentially be illegal conduct," said Ross. "The voter caging and challenge plans outlined by the Tea Party could result in an apparently illegal effort to deter qualified citizens from voting. As described, their plan would deter qualified citizens from voting in a manner that is coercive and without sufficient basis. All of these activities raise serious concerns and should be investigated further to determine whether illegal activity has occurred."  

          Diary, More details on voter suppression plot in Wisconsin, by One Wisconsin Now:

          According to the statements made on the recordings we acquired, Tim Dake, the widely-recognized leader of the Tea Party coalition in Wisconsin, lays out the plans, detailing contact between himself and Reince Preibus, the Republican Party of Wisconsin Chair and Mark Block, state director of Americans for Prosperity-Wisconsin:

            • The Republican Party of Wisconsin will use its "Voter Vault" state-wide voter file to compile a list of minority and student voters in targeted Wisconsin communities.

            • Americans for Prosperity will use this list to send mail to these voters indicating the voter must call and confirm their registration information, and telling them if they do not call the number provided they could be removed from the voter lists.

            • The Tea Party organizations will recruit and place individuals as official poll workers in selected municipalities in order to be able to make the challenges as official poll workers.

            • On Election Day, these organizations will then "make use" of any postcards that are returned as undeliverable to challenge voters at the polls, utilizing law enforcement, as well as attorneys trained and provided by the RPW, to support their challenges.

          Diary, Huge voter suppression plot exposed in Wisconsin, by xofferson:

          The term for what the right-wing intends to do is called "vote caging,"and involves sending mail to addresses on voter lists and using returned mail to challenge voters at the polls on election day.

          The result? Some voters are forced to cast provisional ballots, which require them to follow-up the day after an election for the ballot to be counted. Historically, about 35% of all provisional ballots are never counted.

          Voters who have no reason to think their registrations will be challenged at the polling place may not have the required material to complete an Election Day registration, so the voter will be turned away or sent home to get more documents.

          The challenges may create long lines at the polling place as the caging operation challenges voter after voter. Long lines discourage voters and many simply leave without casting a ballot.

          Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

          by chimpy on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 02:54:43 PM PDT

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      •  I don't know specifics, (1+ / 0-)
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        but the ground game for challenging voters in minority areas is well underway here.

        In 2004, legal assistance at polling places was well needed and invaluable. I was apoll watcher and saw both sides in action.

        If you have legal expertise and live where election outcomes are not in question, please come to Wisconsin. The Dems will find a place for you to make safe for voters.

        "All war is stupid" - JFK

        by jorogo on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 07:50:40 PM PDT

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    •  Caging doesn't affect at the polls registrants (12+ / 0-)

      It's used to attack the registrations of those who registered last election, but have since moved.

      Agricultural hemp is "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."

      by ben masel on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 12:27:28 PM PDT

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      •  Understood. Not talking about polls, just votes. (7+ / 0-)

        Critical votes, uncounted and unanticipated votes, could get caged -- and the voters could be discouraged from sticking out the process. The cagers plan to be at the polls to challenge would be election day registrants and first-time voters -- and minorities and whomever didn't return their bogus mailers (in whichever states they're doing that, said to include WI).

        And those might be the very votes needed to pull out a Feingold victory.

        Voting early prevents caging from happening in the first place.

        You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. -- Sir Winston Churchill

        by bleeding heart on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 12:43:49 PM PDT

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      •  So fliers and posters need to say this (4+ / 0-)
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        If someone thinks they may have been caged, they can fix it easily? And, if some raging teabagger tries to stop them at the polls, they have rights? There's someone to call, or a source to cite if they have trouble?

        Can we help put this info together somehow, or help pay for its duplication and distribution? If we make our own, in addition to the what-to-do list, I'd include the One Wisconsin Now graphic, plus a sample caging letter.

        Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

        by chimpy on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 01:07:59 PM PDT

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      •  "... since moved" ... not always the case (2+ / 0-)
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        Caging can

        1. make it appear someone who throws out junk mail has moved.
        1. intimidate the receiver.
        1. make enough red tape to discourage voters.
        1. make long lines in D precincts longer as poll workers have to explain the process to those unwittingly caged who have shown up.

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