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  •  I feel caught, terribly. I don't like the (13+ / 0-)

    position we've been put in following the Bush presidency.  We were tased and slammed to the ground and stomped on by thugs.  Then when Obama showed up and said "It'll be okay, these guys will get what's coming to them," we got up, aching in every joint, hopeful.  But we were hoping for something like what-- that he'd pull out a ray gun and zap everything bad and make it all go away quickly?  If we were hoping for that, we were unfair, wrong, worse than stupid.  In that sense, I think that an attitude of patience with this presidency, and of support for this presidency, is in order.  

    HOWEVER, there are indeed decisions and policies that Obama has supported, or put into place, or strengthened, that more resemble those of the Bush administration than I would wish.  His doing so doesn't seem to fit in with the "It'll be okay" expectation that I and so many had when we voted for him.  It's frustrating and infuriating.  

    What's "acceptable," however, as a means of expressing one's anger and frustration about FBI practices such as the one described in the diary?  Is it "acceptable" to sit out the upcoming election cycles if there's no progressive candidate (as opposed to a plain vanilla democrat) on one's local or state ballots?  Is it "acceptable" not to vote for the dem, just to make a statement about how much one might think Obama's DOJ fails to measure up on one's justice meter?  

    I think our current two-party system sucks in so many ways, but I do not envision it being acceptable for Republicans to take over the house or senate or White House any time soon.  

    •  I agree (6+ / 0-)

      it's not so much the sentiment, but the timing.  I have
      certainly been more disappointed in President Obama than
      satisfied.  That being said I also fear the monsters
      (and I do not use that term lightly) who stand to shut
      the government down these next two years.  I guess my
      line in the sand will come in December with the
      pronouncements of the Deficit Commission and/or the
      vote on the Bush Tax Cuts.  I think in terms of
      President Obama in much the same way I thought of
      President Clinton, a good Republican President.

      •  my line in the sand (3+ / 0-)
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        IF the Dems maintain majority and do not change/modify the filibuster rules so that they can actually govern.  

        "I want you to hold our government accountable. I want you to hold me accountable." -- Barack Obama.

        by ScienceMom on Wed Oct 20, 2010 at 06:48:40 AM PDT

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        •  Then they've already failed. (0+ / 0-)

          A mere majority cannot change the Senate rules. Period. Changing Senate rules requires a 2/3rds vote of the members present and voting. So I'll save you the suspense. Senate Democrats will, absolutely, fail your "line in the sand."

          •  The Nuclear Option (0+ / 0-)

            allows the Senate to reinterpret a procedural rule by invoking the constitutional requirement that the will of the majority be effective. This option allows a simple majority to override precedent and end a filibuster or other delaying tactic.  The new interpretation becomes effective, both for the immediate circumstance and as a precedent, if it is upheld by a majority vote. Although it is not provided for in the formal rules of the Senate, the nuclear option is the subject of a 1957 parliamentary opinion by Vice President Richard Nixon and was endorsed by the Senate in a series of votes in 1975, some of which were reconsidered shortly thereafter. From Wiki.

            "I want you to hold our government accountable. I want you to hold me accountable." -- Barack Obama.

            by ScienceMom on Wed Oct 20, 2010 at 12:34:40 PM PDT

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